Don't mind either of those lineups tbh but, is it not more realistic to think we'd appoint either one or both of a DOR & Head Coach (with agreement between the two) and they would then (probably) insist on their own coaching lineup or at least a very big say in appointments to avoid cronyism, meddling and to have a clean slate? OK, so maybe some persuasion from the club for certain appointment suggestions may be listened to but if I was a DOR/HC coming in to this (apparent) mess then I'd be saying I want my own team with me or final say over potential recruits whilst maybe thinking of keeping one or two (Smurph / Stanko) existing staff for their inside knowledge where it was appropriate.RagingBull wrote: ↑Sat Dec 01, 2018 6:34 pm In a realistic world I would really only keep Murphy and Stanko.
Dream world
Robertson- DOR/Forwards Coach
Plumtree- Head Coach/Defence Coach
Vesty - Backs Coach
Stanko - Scrum Coach
Newby - Breakdown Coach
John Fletcher - Head of development
People out of contract I wouldn't mind.
Head of rugby operations - Ben Ryan
Director of Rugby/Defence coach - Venter
Head Coach/Back coach - Murphy
Forwards Coach - Mckee
Scrum Coach - Stank
If going with the second suggested lineup I'd separate Smurph from HC & Backs coach and have Vesty from your first list as backs coach leaving Smurph to HC role and also Newby as breakdown coach. Not very realistic I guess (fantasy land) to have fingers in both lists/pies, too many cooks may come into the equation and it would undoubtedly cost a fortune, contract buy outs where applicable etc, but if they're serious about recovery then bucks will have to be found and spent and it will STILL take time.
I really do now think that the board have languished too long in the belief that we're the best supported club blah blah blah and may have taken supporters for granted once too often with the result that it's going to bite them on the collective Aris if effective changes are not made soon.
However, getting rid of the coaching team now will only leave further egg on face and club/personal reputations tarnished further - but so be it.