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No Dan Cole in the England training squad

Post by Chobbsy » Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:09 am

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Re: No Dan Cole in the England training squad

Post by rdracup » Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:17 am

And all the headlines are written around Cipriani and Manu. Will COLE announce international retirement or fight for his place. I hope the latter.

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Re: No Dan Cole in the England training squad

Post by Chobbsy » Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:29 am

rdracup wrote:
Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:17 am
And all the headlines are written around Cipriani and Manu. Will COLE announce international retirement or fight for his place. I hope the latter.
Yes strange as the article said the squad will be meeting up with new defence coach John Mitchell so you would think Eddie would want all his fit team for the Autumns internationals there, so does not look good for Danny boy

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Re: No Dan Cole in the England training squad

Post by daktari » Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:58 am

Bit odd given that the other England TH are so bad Eddie has to play Dan for 80 minutes every match....
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Re: No Dan Cole in the England training squad

Post by jgriffin » Thu Sep 20, 2018 12:05 pm

daktari wrote:
Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:58 am
Bit odd given that the other England TH are so bad Eddie has to play Dan for 80 minutes every match....
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Re: No Dan Cole in the England training squad

Post by mightymouse » Thu Sep 20, 2018 12:14 pm

Maybe that's why. He knows what Cole can do. The ohers are the ones that need eperiencecat the top level especially Williams. He can always bring Cole back for 6 nations or WC.
Meanwhile Tigers keep clear which is just as well bearing in mind our other props!

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Re: No Dan Cole in the England training squad

Post by Mark62 » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:04 pm

mightymouse wrote:
Thu Sep 20, 2018 12:14 pm
Maybe that's why. He knows what Cole can do. The ohers are the ones that need eperiencecat the top level especially Williams. He can always bring Cole back for 6 nations or WC.
Meanwhile Tigers keep clear which is just as well bearing in mind our other props!
I think Mighty Mouse has hit the nail on the head although it’s a little surprising given it’s their first session with Mitchell.
At the end of the day he is England’ Most capped tight head, Leonard played both sides, so I hope that Jones has dealt with the situation correctly, and if it is the end of his international career he could be given a fitting send off against the Japanese for instance.
It may of course be Dan’s decision and that after his first summer off and with a young family, he has decided that club rugby is enough moving forward

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Re: No Dan Cole in the England training squad

Post by Flash » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:22 pm

I can't believe this doesn't seem to be mentioned in any reports of the squad, that's the big news not the third choice fly half not making it.

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Re: No Dan Cole in the England training squad

Post by Wayne Richardson Fan Club » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:49 pm

Dan Cole - honest professional rugby player.
Dan Cipriani - professional off field wally

Who makes more interest in media??
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Re: No Dan Cole in the England training squad

Post by Grimlish » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:54 pm

It’s a training squad , not the squad for the AIs.

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Re: No Dan Cole in the England training squad

Post by MurphysLaw » Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:20 pm

[quote=Grimlish post_id=697396 time=1537448056 user_id=4920]
It’s a training squad , not the squad for the AIs.
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That's true! However, an important one with Mitchell introducing his defence plans etc.
I think that EJ has been trying to find a Dan Cole replacement for a while now, and it will be interesting to see where this leaves him.Williams seems to be favoured. I 've forgotten which side he props, but interesting to see Schonert in the group too.

I just hope that no-one comes back from the camp broken - especially Manu.

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Re: No Dan Cole in the England training squad

Post by ellis9 » Thu Sep 20, 2018 4:28 pm

I know it's only the training squad butbased on the players picked I'm hoping we get to see a backline in the Autumn Internationals of:

Youngs
Ford
Slade
Tuilagi
May
Ashton
Daly

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Re: No Dan Cole in the England training squad

Post by Stephen18 » Thu Sep 20, 2018 4:34 pm

MurphysLaw wrote:
Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:20 pm
Grimlish wrote:
Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:54 pm
It’s a training squad , not the squad for the AIs.
That's true! However, an important one with Mitchell introducing his defence plans etc.
I think that EJ has been trying to find a Dan Cole replacement for a while now, and it will be interesting to see where this leaves him.Williams seems to be favoured. I 've forgotten which side he props, but interesting to see Schonert in the group too.

I just hope that no-one comes back from the camp broken - especially Manu.
I thought he’d have taken Ruskin, before he plays for Georgia to make the world up.

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Re: No Dan Cole in the England training squad

Post by Hot_Charlie » Thu Sep 20, 2018 4:45 pm

Stephen18 wrote:
Thu Sep 20, 2018 4:34 pm
MurphysLaw wrote:
Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:20 pm
Grimlish wrote:
Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:54 pm
It’s a training squad , not the squad for the AIs.
That's true! However, an important one with Mitchell introducing his defence plans etc.
I think that EJ has been trying to find a Dan Cole replacement for a while now, and it will be interesting to see where this leaves him.Williams seems to be favoured. I 've forgotten which side he props, but interesting to see Schonert in the group too.

I just hope that no-one comes back from the camp broken - especially Manu.
I thought he’d have taken Ruskin, before he plays for Georgia to make the world up.
Which would be a shame. Sadly Ruskin could probably make more £££ with one England cap than playing for Georgia. He’s easily 5th (tops) in the LH pecking order and IF the RFU were to make a policy of blocking players pathways to other, particularly Tier 2, nations then it would be a sad day. This of course is just after one of the form English forwards he been capped for the Azzuri.

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Re: No Dan Cole in the England training squad

Post by BFG » Thu Sep 20, 2018 4:49 pm

Stephen18 wrote:
Thu Sep 20, 2018 4:34 pm
MurphysLaw wrote:
Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:20 pm
Grimlish wrote:
Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:54 pm
It’s a training squad , not the squad for the AIs.
That's true! However, an important one with Mitchell introducing his defence plans etc.
I think that EJ has been trying to find a Dan Cole replacement for a while now, and it will be interesting to see where this leaves him.Williams seems to be favoured. I 've forgotten which side he props, but interesting to see Schonert in the group too.

I just hope that no-one comes back from the camp broken - especially Manu.
I thought he’d have taken Ruskin, before he plays for Georgia to make the world up.
Ruskin is a loose head isn't he, ten a penny.
I haven't seen a tight head with the potential to lock out under pressure like Cole.
They are all pretty good when the momentum is immediately with them.
Williams and Schonert aren't bad choices.
I suppose nothing lasts forever and given how young they try and bring them through they'll not all go on as long as in the past.
Cole is always there to come in but other club supporters seem to think that defence has been a problem more recently.
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