New Signings !!!! I am totally under whelmed
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Re: New Signings !!!! I am totally under whelmed
Several posters may be underwhelmed but please lets give these players a chance to prove themselves.
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Re: New Signings !!!! I am totally under whelmed
I don't think we would need Eastmond and another pacific island centre as well as manu and toomua who we already have, that would lead to good players not getting enough game time. If manu or toomua got injured then it is worth bringing i n a younger player who would not expect as much game time if there are no injuries. Although I do agree with one of Eastmond or a pacific island centre (the only obvious choice i could find was Botia) but I would rather have eastmond as we already have manu as a power centre.FrontRowUnionMember wrote:If it's true we are looking at two more centres plus a No8, great.
I think we need someone who can bring an explosive physical presence at 12, then someone who can unlock a defence, be it a playmaker 10/12, or even just a dynamic outside runner at 13. I know he's been getting some negative views on here, but I wouldn't be against Eastmond, would fill the distributor role at 12, and also alternatively be a dangerous runner at 13 with footwork and pace. Add in a gainline busting 12, a big Polynesian maybe, and I think we'd have a decent balance to our backline.
Assuming the 8 may well be a project like Mapapalangi. Can't see it being a high profile international player.
To be looking at two centres and an 8, would this suggest further departures? One player at risk in my opinion is Macafferey. I rate him, but he's not a hard hitting 6, not a groundhog 7, not a big carrying 8, more of a bit of decent all rounder. With Williams, Hamilton, and now Ryan vying for 6 shirt, O'Connor, Evans and Ryan battling for the 7 shirt, and Kalamafoni, Hamilton plus another 8 fighting for the 7 spot, Macafferey looks expendable. Sad to say, as he's always been Quality in my opinion, but just doesn't leap out as a banker starter. Equally Croft could be seen as expendable? In the backs, Betham going justifies one centre, does a second centre require further squad cutting?
One other area we still need to add for me, is prop. Losing Ayerza, Balmain and Brugnara leaves us a little lighter than I'd like. Betts is a talent, but one prop to replace all three is risky. He replaces Balmain for me, as the fringe TH behind the internationals. Need to add at least one more. I rate mulipola highly as a player, but I don't have a lot of faith in his durability.
Eastmond, a Pacific Islander explosive 12/13, Mapapalangi, and a prop? Perfect.
Re: New Signings !!!! I am totally under whelmed
Totally agree. They may turn out to be as good as Adam Thompstone who wasn't universally seen as a stellar signing but who we wouldn't be without now.Noddy555 wrote:Several posters may be underwhelmed but please lets give these players a chance to prove themselves.
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Re: New Signings !!!! I am totally under whelmed
seems as tho people will be storing up their bile for the next few months and come out spitting venom after the first pre-season if its not a 50 nil thrashing of someone.
Re: New Signings !!!! I am totally under whelmed
alas the weaknesses evident in preseason do seem to manifest themselves in the season.....I can remember a couple of very lacklustre efforts that were mirrored in lacklustre seasons that stuttered and stuttered...Snorbins wrote:seems as tho people will be storing up their bile for the next few months and come out spitting venom after the first pre-season if its not a 50 nil thrashing of someone.
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Yes a trip to the Scottish borders was a bit of warning wasn't itjgriffin wrote:alas the weaknesses evident in preseason do seem to manifest themselves in the season.....I can remember a couple of very lacklustre efforts that were mirrored in lacklustre seasons that stuttered and stuttered...Snorbins wrote:seems as tho people will be storing up their bile for the next few months and come out spitting venom after the first pre-season if its not a 50 nil thrashing of someone.
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Re: New Signings !!!! I am totally under whelmed
Some of our recent pre season games have been woeful struggling against significantly more lowly sides. Let's not forget it was preseason for them too.
If it were us taking it lightly to entertain the crowd it might have been acceptable but we leaked tries and continued in that fashion when the season started.
Let's hope a for better this season.
If it were us taking it lightly to entertain the crowd it might have been acceptable but we leaked tries and continued in that fashion when the season started.
Let's hope a for better this season.
Re: New Signings !!!! I am totally under whelmed
Snorbins wrote:seems as tho people will be storing up their bile for the next few months and come out spitting venom after the first pre-season if its not a 50 nil thrashing of someone.
50 nil thrashing When was the last time Tigers did that during the season let alone preseason
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Re: New Signings !!!! I am totally under whelmed
Botia would fit the bill, not sure if he'd be available.Richardfje wrote:I don't think we would need Eastmond and another pacific island centre as well as manu and toomua who we already have, that would lead to good players not getting enough game time. If manu or toomua got injured then it is worth bringing i n a younger player who would not expect as much game time if there are no injuries. Although I do agree with one of Eastmond or a pacific island centre (the only obvious choice i could find was Botia) but I would rather have eastmond as we already have manu as a power centre.
As for having Manu, all well and good when available for selection (international duty or injury permitting). Outside of Toomua, we don't have too many natural options at 12.
Eastmond/Botia two very different 12's. Add Mapapalangi, that's a lot better balance.
Re: New Signings !!!! I am totally under whelmed
I think Henry Slade would answer many of the questions we have around centres, cover for Ford and spot kicking. I just don't think he'd come to a less successful clubFrontRowUnionMember wrote:Botia would fit the bill, not sure if he'd be available.Richardfje wrote:I don't think we would need Eastmond and another pacific island centre as well as manu and toomua who we already have, that would lead to good players not getting enough game time. If manu or toomua got injured then it is worth bringing i n a younger player who would not expect as much game time if there are no injuries. Although I do agree with one of Eastmond or a pacific island centre (the only obvious choice i could find was Botia) but I would rather have eastmond as we already have manu as a power centre.
As for having Manu, all well and good when available for selection (international duty or injury permitting). Outside of Toomua, we don't have too many natural options at 12.
Eastmond/Botia two very different 12's. Add Mapapalangi, that's a lot better balance.
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Re: New Signings !!!! I am totally under whelmed
While there may not be any 'headliner' names other than GF, If those that have signed can better the 4th place of this year then it will be a +! MOC knows what and who he wants so I'm fully prepared to wait and see, venting my spleen as I wish when it is right, IMO, to do so. Hang in there Chobbsy and keep the faith.Chobbsy wrote:Well after yesterdays announcement of the new signings I am left underwhelmed I hope 2 things,
1, I am proved totally wrong (I am married so I am used to that)
2, That there are more signings to come.
Oh and just to head off any outbursts, this isn't me going against Tigers, not being a true Tigers fan, wanting MOC out, it is just my opinion.
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Re: New Signings !!!! I am totally under whelmed
I think another good option for tigers could be Ben Te'o as he continues to play for an unsuccessful premiership club, so I think he would be for the idea of joining an english club with a lot of history of success where he would probably get a lot of game time too
Another obvious option would be Michele Campagnaro who is a kind of centre that would add a lot of excitement to the squad and even though you could say he is down sizing the premiership table fluctuates hugely from season to season and he would also get more game time here as well
Another obvious option would be Michele Campagnaro who is a kind of centre that would add a lot of excitement to the squad and even though you could say he is down sizing the premiership table fluctuates hugely from season to season and he would also get more game time here as well
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Ben Te'o? Dream on. He's under contract at Worcester and is their biggest earner. There's literally no chance of us buying out his contract then paying him the big time wages he'll want.Richardfje wrote:I think another good option for tigers could be Ben Te'o as he continues to play for an unsuccessful premiership club, so I think he would be for the idea of joining an english club with a lot of history of success where he would probably get a lot of game time too
Another obvious option would be Michele Campagnaro who is a kind of centre that would add a lot of excitement to the squad and even though you could say he is down sizing the premiership table fluctuates hugely from season to season and he would also get more game time here as well
Campagnaro is also under contract. Think he signed a new deal at Exeter earlier this year.
Signing - Stop Moaning!
There is a lot of moaning about new signing on here. I for one would like to welcome the new players.
How about we respect the decisions the club has made and back the new players - alternatively ... support a club that has signed the players you like.
Completely agree with discussing rumours and players we would like etc, but once they are officially signed a announced, back them.
How about we respect the decisions the club has made and back the new players - alternatively ... support a club that has signed the players you like.
Completely agree with discussing rumours and players we would like etc, but once they are officially signed a announced, back them.
Re: New Signings !!!! I am totally under whelmed
I bet you were also underwhelmed when we signed Telusa Veainu?!
Look how good he is!
Look how good he is!