Cockers not happy with the aussies

[kingol22]

The coach in particular. Deans has said that castro manipulates the ref to get penalties at scrum time obviously cockers isnt happy and has said that they should get there scrum sorted before they start criticising leicester players

http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/t ... ticle.html

[Richard]

Didnt the NZ ref mr O'brien say that a couple a years ago about Castro and as a result Castro got pinged at almost ever scrum in subsequent matches. He has recently come out and apologized because he had got it wrong.

[mightymouse]

Cockers is absolutely right - This is all about trying to de power the scrum due their inability in this area - They try to change the laws if it doesn't suit them and it is a disgrace. It must be resisted most vigourously - they must continue to penalise those taking the scrum down - they must be made to scrum and stop this lottery stuff - one against you then one against them - the weak scrummage teams must not be allowed to profit.

Exactly the same thing happens to Ewan Murry - he shoves someone all over the park then they drop it and he is penalised - The referees need to switch on!

[Bill W (2)]

What is to prevent Deans' props doing whatever it is Castro does?

If they stay up, square and straight they will not be penalised.

[Purebob]

What is to prevent Deans' props doing whatever it is Castro does?

1. technique
2. strength
3. commitment
4. courage
5. timing
6. coaching
7. experience

[Bill W (2)]

What is to prevent Deans' props doing whatever it is Castro does?

1. technique
2. strength
3. commitment
4. courage
5. timing
6. coaching
7. experience

OK. Apart from those?

[Snorbins]

dont think i have ever heard cockers so irrate. They dont like it up em Mr Mainwaring! Tell it like it is. another NZ and Aus attack on real rugby!

[Smurphswillgetya]

Good on you Cocky. The rules and interpretation is all geared towards negating or doing away with the scrum. I know I shouldnt but I have watched a few rugby league games and cannot understand why they have scrums. They just come together the ball is fed to the back and the guy who put it in picks it up almost immediately and play carries on. Is that what we want in union?

[Bill W (2)]

Good on you Cocky. The rules and interpretation is all geared towards negating or doing away with the scrum. I know I shouldnt but I have watched a few rugby league games and cannot understand why they have scrums. They just come together the ball is fed to the back and the guy who put it in picks it up almost immediately and play carries on. Is that what we want in union?

Do you need to ask? NO!!!!

[Smurphswillgetya]

Good on you Cocky. The rules and interpretation is all geared towards negating or doing away with the scrum. I know I shouldnt but I have watched a few rugby league games and cannot understand why they have scrums. They just come together the ball is fed to the back and the guy who put it in picks it up almost immediately and play carries on. Is that what we want in union?

Do you need to ask? NO!!!!

Bill we may not want it but if the southern hemisphere have their way (in particular Australia and NZ) that is exactly what we will end up with

[Jay C]

Full on scrums are part of the enjoyment of the game and an interesting side battle or 'game within a game' to see who comes out on top - i would not like to see that removed completely from the game. I also dislike the current one for them, one for you attitude that some refs have at scrumtime....

The contrast in styles of say the Pumas or Italians compared to the Fijians or welsh provides great entertainment to games. In fact, these games can be more interesting than two very similiarly styles teams going at it !

Hopefully, for the good of the game, NZ & Oz will soon find some decent scrummagers and then suddenly we will have this emphasis reversed and real rugby will be resumed across the globe

[SPIKE@srufc]

All hail the word of Cockers. Nail firmly smacked I would suggest.

[mol2]

What is to prevent Deans' props doing whatever it is Castro does?

If they stay up, square and straight they will not be penalised.

Because the Aussies don't appreciate the scrum, have lobbied for the scrum to be emasculated and have opted to produce and play overweight back row forwards at prop - better in the loose but if they have to do real scrummaging work and come up against an out & out prop they will struggle.

The Aussies prefer League where a prop forward's role is essentially more akin to that of back row player in Union and think the rest of us want the same.

[LessThanSte]

Be nice if the scrum could be sorted so we dont have to spend 3 minutes watching the ref tell them to try it again every time though aye.