Cips off down under?
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Why are so many top-quality first-team players leaving Wasps?
First Flutey, Haskell, Rees and now Sackey and Cipriani it seems to be developing into a culture at Wasps.
Long away from the days of Shaw, Dalaglio etc. And who next? Waldouck? Rees? Simpson?
First Flutey, Haskell, Rees and now Sackey and Cipriani it seems to be developing into a culture at Wasps.
Long away from the days of Shaw, Dalaglio etc. And who next? Waldouck? Rees? Simpson?
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It all started with Randrew!!!!bluntiger wrote:Why are so many top-quality first-team players leaving Wasps?
First Flutey, Haskell, Rees and now Sackey and Cipriani it seems to be developing into a culture at Wasps.
Long away from the days of Shaw, Dalaglio etc. And who next? Waldouck? Rees? Simpson?
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This , allegedly and without prejudice, is why he is leaving....
He knows he has ZERO chance of playing for England whilst Johnno and Wellys are i/c----- he is too flawed, is an unreliable goalkicker under pressure, and carries too much baggage
The Cipriani thought process is, --- to come back after the World Cup, when we are looking for new management, and he will be able to start again.
He knows he has ZERO chance of playing for England whilst Johnno and Wellys are i/c----- he is too flawed, is an unreliable goalkicker under pressure, and carries too much baggage
The Cipriani thought process is, --- to come back after the World Cup, when we are looking for new management, and he will be able to start again.
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Good rationalisation.norfolkexpat wrote:This , allegedly and without prejudice, is why he is leaving....
He knows he has ZERO chance of playing for England whilst Johnno and Wellys are i/c----- he is too flawed, is an unreliable goalkicker under pressure, and carries too much baggage
The Cipriani thought process is, --- to come back after the World Cup, when we are looking for new management, and he will be able to start again.
Still think he will do a Gav.
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Do you mean Palmer,as Rees can't have left, and joined again, or maybe he hasbluntiger wrote:Why are so many top-quality first-team players leaving Wasps?
First Flutey, Haskell, Rees and now Sackey and Cipriani it seems to be developing into a culture at Wasps.
Long away from the days of Shaw, Dalaglio etc. And who next? Waldouck? Rees? Simpson?
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Agree with Norfolkexpat's reasoning.
Don't think he will do a Gav just yet as a) She is not a millionaire like Charlotte Church and b) I don't think he is anywhere ready for a family.
Sooooo.....Wasps are looking for a no 10. Hope Worcester have got Goode signed and sealed (he couldn't could he?)AAAgh
Don't think he will do a Gav just yet as a) She is not a millionaire like Charlotte Church and b) I don't think he is anywhere ready for a family.
Sooooo.....Wasps are looking for a no 10. Hope Worcester have got Goode signed and sealed (he couldn't could he?)AAAgh
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what makes you think we will be looking for a new management after the world cup? he is a great talent but has seemed to be hated by the media and coaches since he was seen in a nightclub before an england game.
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Think it goes back before then.kingol22 wrote:what makes you think we will be looking for a new management after the world cup? he is a great talent but has seemed to be hated by the media and coaches since he was seen in a nightclub before an england game.
ATTITUDE.
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It's not what I think-
It is what Cipriani thinks-- his rationale
The England Management could not hack his total lack of professionalism/arrogance --ie texting during analysis etc
Their private opinion
Good Riddance
It is what Cipriani thinks-- his rationale
The England Management could not hack his total lack of professionalism/arrogance --ie texting during analysis etc
Their private opinion
Good Riddance
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Ahem, It was a strip clubkingol22 wrote:what makes you think we will be looking for a new management after the world cup? he is a great talent but has seemed to be hated by the media and coaches since he was seen in a nightclub before an england game.
Forwards win games , Backs decide by how much
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REF. BW(2) & KINGCOL 22
Attitude - maybe he has links himself with the millionaire soccer players.
Attitude - maybe he has links himself with the millionaire soccer players.
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http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/21022010/ ... orced.html
And here's an article explaining his decision.......depression!
He's lost 15 caps? Personally, from that article, I say he isn't mentally strong enough to be an England player, sounds like spitting the dummy to me. He really is a talented rugby player, who IMHO just doesn't like it if he doesn't get his own way, wants to be a superstar with all the trimmings without doing the hard yards - at least that's how he appears to me. What a waste (?) of talent.
If this article is to be believed of course not from a 'usual source' I just stumbled across it.
And here's an article explaining his decision.......depression!
He's lost 15 caps? Personally, from that article, I say he isn't mentally strong enough to be an England player, sounds like spitting the dummy to me. He really is a talented rugby player, who IMHO just doesn't like it if he doesn't get his own way, wants to be a superstar with all the trimmings without doing the hard yards - at least that's how he appears to me. What a waste (?) of talent.
If this article is to be believed of course not from a 'usual source' I just stumbled across it.
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Compare and contrast his attitude with that of Johnny Wilkinson and it doesn't take long to see the problem. I watched him in the Saxons in the summer when he was pretty awful so it's no surprise to me that he's not in the EPS.
If it's not for the money (and he says it's about the same as he was getting at Wasps) and he realises it says goodbye to his 2011 RWC chances then it doesn't indicate to me that playing FH for England is that high on his list of priorities.
If it's not for the money (and he says it's about the same as he was getting at Wasps) and he realises it says goodbye to his 2011 RWC chances then it doesn't indicate to me that playing FH for England is that high on his list of priorities.
Nowadays referees decide matches, players by how much.