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Re: #16 Speaks - all Ospreys discussion here please

Post by SMS » Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:37 am

Why nothing on the Rugby Club about the incident? They must have unseen footage from all angles which would answer a number of questions raised in previous posts.

Having said that the Zapruder film was not broadcast until March 1975!

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Re: #16 Speaks - all Ospreys discussion here please

Post by tim15 » Fri Jan 29, 2010 11:11 am

Just a thought whilst our Osprey fans keep using the "hand of back" card, no-one seemed to have mentioned their management and the issue with accusations and eyes last year.
All the furore that arose and ended up with Cozza being banned for several weeks and their management "demanding action" on Julian White only to change tact.

We've not dug this up, so keep the thread talking about the pertinent issues, not aware were point scoring just discussing
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Re: #16 Speaks - all Ospreys discussion here please

Post by salcombe bob » Fri Jan 29, 2010 11:57 am

look. Hand of Back, together with lazy running, crossing, ooops sorry ref are all similar, trying to get an advantage.

This Ospreys thing is totally unlike that. It is more akin to Bloodgate but even more, a fundamental question. If the game allows 15 players on the pitch, it cannot be there are 16 suddenly, otherwise where do you stop? The whole system of subs needs sorting and this will do it.

Now, I don't want a replay but it is wrong to call us poor losers and for some people to be embarrassed, it needs addressing. The alternative was just to ignore it. Perhaps Clermont should go through, they played to the guidelines. :smt039

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Re: #16 Speaks - all Ospreys discussion here please

Post by crateman » Fri Jan 29, 2010 12:32 pm

Does anyone know the timing of the hearing? Or, perhaps, more importantly when we can expect a decision?


EDIT - just looked on the telegraph's website, and the hearing is tonight. Decision to be anounced when the media can be bothered then.
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Post by NaptonTiger » Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:07 pm

I hope that there isn't a replay because I might have to again sit near to the braying kids (fans?) who booed en-mass at every set kick of ours and jeered us as we were leaving the seats after the match - apparently with adult approval - how very sporting of them all.

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Post by bluntiger » Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:11 pm

NaptonTiger wrote:I hope that there isn't a replay because I might have to again sit near to the braying kids (fans?) who booed en-mass at every set kick of ours and jeered us as we were leaving the seats after the match - apparently with adult approval - how very sporting of them all.
Had exactly the same experience at Cardiff last year in the EDF cup. Kids banging the plackards and booing at every kick.
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Post by Suz » Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:31 pm

Forget the 16th man I'm more concerned about this

'When I slid my big toe was pointing downwards and hanging out of my boot,"

That doesn't sound right does it?
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Post by crateman » Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:51 pm

Doesn't sound like a blood injury does it?

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Post by tigermad » Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:58 pm

:smt006 :smt006

It will be interesting to see what conclusions the hearing in Dublin will come to with all the media speculation surrounding the 16th man issue. Who will be the real winner tonight? Discuss.
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Post by Smudge » Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:37 pm

Who will be the real winner tonight? Discuss.

I suspect it will be the lawyers.

If the O's are docked points and we or another club go through They will appeal.
If nothing is done Tigers will appeal.
If the match is ordered to be replayed O's will appeal.
Etc Etc Etc.
I am not keen to be given a bye at O's expence neither do I want the result to stand. The best way to sort it with fairness to all is to have a replay. WITH decent officials. That way, all earn some more money, we see another great game and if the Taffs are as good as they are bragging they are they will go through fairly. Will it happen? I doubt it but you never know.How good are our lawyers?
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Re: #16 Speaks - all Ospreys discussion here please

Post by FBI » Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:46 pm

Leicester didn't exactly play in the spirit of the game last year either. In the HEC semi final against Cardiff, with a penalty shoot out approaching, they ripped the bandage from Harry Ellis' head so that they could blood bin him for Dupuy!

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Post by crateman » Fri Jan 29, 2010 3:03 pm

FBI, get your facts straight.


It wsn't Harry Ellis, it was Dan Hipkiss.

It wasn't a bandage, it was a scrum cap.

It wasn't ripped, it was undone and removed in the usual way.

Finally, and perhaps most importantly, it wasn't against the laws of the game.



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Re: #16 Speaks - all Ospreys discussion here please

Post by Grimlish » Fri Jan 29, 2010 3:08 pm

Why nothing on the Rugby Club about the incident? They must have unseen footage from all angles which would answer a number of questions raised in previous posts.
Cos there are lawyers involved.......

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Re: #16 Speaks - all Ospreys discussion here please

Post by FBI » Fri Jan 29, 2010 3:11 pm

Professional companies ought to act ethically and morally. The shared values and beliefs surrounding rugby union is what attracts many fans. It makes business sense not to leave them feeling disenchanted with the sport. The worry is that incidents such as Bloodgate and Dupuy's substition are indicative of a club culture intent on gaining financial advantage in the short term despite the long term damage it'll do to the sport. It seems Dean Richard's legacy has been to leave Leicester with a win at all costs mentality. You've acted like the bankers.

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