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All Ospreys discussion here please!
Interview with Lee Byrne in the Telegraph:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyu ... -saga.html
Make of that what you will.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyu ... -saga.html
Make of that what you will.
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Aargh! we just locked the main thread!
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I was with him all the way , till he got to the bit about Wales winning the Grand Slam,then I realised it was the drink talking
"If you want entertainment, go to the theatre," says Edinburgh head coach Richard Cockerill. "Rugby players play the game to win.15/1/21.
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Yeah, I was wondering why I couldn't post in that thread.Darc Tiger wrote:Aargh! we just locked the main thread!
This does seem to offer a different point of view though, so it's probably worth it's own thread.
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I locked the other one as it was too long and frankly the discussions were repeating themselves and going round in circles, regular users will know we try and lock threads over 20 pages and if necessary, start a new one, and they become unwieldy to read and refer back to, and slow down the board.
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"I thought Sonny had gone off on the other side of the field but obviously he hadn't," said Byrne, speaking before he faced the misconduct charge. "I wouldn't have intentionally done that [returned to the pitch] if I knew he was still there."
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Agreed - Is that why he can clearly be seen shouting "Sonny! Sonny!" and gesturing for him to leave the pitch when he comes on?! Very odd thing to say given the clear video evidence to the contrary.Bill W (2) wrote:"I thought Sonny had gone off on the other side of the field but obviously he hadn't," said Byrne, speaking before he faced the misconduct charge. "I wouldn't have intentionally done that [returned to the pitch] if I knew he was still there."
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It's not like Wales winning a Grand Slam is beyond the realms of reality, is it?tigerburnie wrote:I was with him all the way , till he got to the bit about Wales winning the Grand Slam,then I realised it was the drink talking
This is a test lion you're speaking of Bill. He may not be the sharpest knife in the block, but a cheat & a liar he is not.Bill W (2) wrote:"I thought Sonny had gone off on the other side of the field but obviously he hadn't," said Byrne, speaking before he faced the misconduct charge. "I wouldn't have intentionally done that [returned to the pitch] if I knew he was still there."
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Since this thread is merely continuing the locked one, I will repeat my final post on that thread:
I am getting somewhat bored with Trolls and others saying how disgraceful it is that the Board of Leicester Tigers PLC have lodged a complaint with ERC regarding the circumstances surrounding the Ospreys playing 16 men during a crucial period of the HC match.
It is inconceivable to me (i.e. beyond the balance of probabilities) that Ospreys Officials, The Referee his two assistants and the Fourth Official were blind to the arrival of Lee Byrne on the pitch without Sonny Parker (his blood replacement) coming off;
It is inconceivable to me (same definition) that the Referee, his two assistants and the Fourth Official were all ignorant of the Laws of the Game on this introduction of a 16th player.
It therefore to me seems likely that on the balance of probabilities something well beyond "iterpreting the Laws" or "human error" occured.
Farbeit from me to suggest what it might have been but it is, IMHO, essential that ERC find out.
I am getting somewhat bored with Trolls and others saying how disgraceful it is that the Board of Leicester Tigers PLC have lodged a complaint with ERC regarding the circumstances surrounding the Ospreys playing 16 men during a crucial period of the HC match.
It is inconceivable to me (i.e. beyond the balance of probabilities) that Ospreys Officials, The Referee his two assistants and the Fourth Official were blind to the arrival of Lee Byrne on the pitch without Sonny Parker (his blood replacement) coming off;
It is inconceivable to me (same definition) that the Referee, his two assistants and the Fourth Official were all ignorant of the Laws of the Game on this introduction of a 16th player.
It therefore to me seems likely that on the balance of probabilities something well beyond "iterpreting the Laws" or "human error" occured.
Farbeit from me to suggest what it might have been but it is, IMHO, essential that ERC find out.
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It doesn't contradict what he says though, does it? He gestured Parker to go off and assumed Parker had done / was about to.Mr Macca wrote:Agreed - Is that why he can clearly be seen shouting "Sonny! Sonny!" and gesturing for him to leave the pitch when he comes on?! Very odd thing to say given the clear video evidence to the contrary.Lee Byrne wrote:"I thought Sonny had gone off on the other side of the field but obviously he hadn't,"
When play then came his way, he wasn't go to wonder whether his colleague had gone off or not. Unfortunately for everyone concerned, Byrne made an incorrect assumption.
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Agreed. The sooner we can put this matter to bed, the better for everyone concerned.Bill W (2) wrote:Farbeit from me to suggest what it might have been but it is, IMHO, essential that ERC find out.
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I did not say he was a cheat and a liar.AfanOsprey wrote: This is a test lion you're speaking of Bill. He may not be the sharpest knife in the block, but a cheat & a liar he is not.
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I am not holding my breath.AfanOsprey wrote:Agreed. The sooner we can put this matter to bed, the better for everyone concerned.Bill W (2) wrote:Farbeit from me to suggest what it might have been but it is, IMHO, essential that ERC find out.
IMHO it will drag on and on and on.
And the repercussions, along with those from Dupuy and Attoub will be very deep and very painful.
Just my opinion.
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Sonny Parker did leave the pitch - it was directly in front of me and thousands of us saw it. We couldn't work out what was happening, because the game was continuing and Sonny was the wrong side of the touchline. This was well before Allan Lewis flounced over to the dugout and gave our Dani a right dressing down.
Anyway, that's enough from me. We'll see.
Anyway, that's enough from me. We'll see.