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I can't QUITE get myself to believe.
Oh, it's possible. Almost likely. If we won, I would not be shocked or even startled.
In fact, I think we have a respectable, 35-65% chance of winning. If it were a 3 game series, I would think we would win at least once.
But it's not a 3 game series. It's one game. Winner take all.
And I think ENG is required to raise its game several levels above its normal cruising gear to be able to win. That's possible, but extremely difficult, and it would be two weeks in a row. It's almost hard to IMAGINE the improvement since the SA game necessary to win this semi-final.
Meanwhile, FRA are quite simply a more accomplished team. They have more bullets in their gun. They have played at a much higher level for years now. They are just a better team.
So, I can't quite believe. I think ENG will play nobly, but I don't see us winning this.
I do, however, hope. We've got a shot. A decent one. So let's ruck like hell, lads, and see if we can beat the odds again.
Oh, it's possible. Almost likely. If we won, I would not be shocked or even startled.
In fact, I think we have a respectable, 35-65% chance of winning. If it were a 3 game series, I would think we would win at least once.
But it's not a 3 game series. It's one game. Winner take all.
And I think ENG is required to raise its game several levels above its normal cruising gear to be able to win. That's possible, but extremely difficult, and it would be two weeks in a row. It's almost hard to IMAGINE the improvement since the SA game necessary to win this semi-final.
Meanwhile, FRA are quite simply a more accomplished team. They have more bullets in their gun. They have played at a much higher level for years now. They are just a better team.
So, I can't quite believe. I think ENG will play nobly, but I don't see us winning this.
I do, however, hope. We've got a shot. A decent one. So let's ruck like hell, lads, and see if we can beat the odds again.
Just a Yankee looker-on from afar.
agree with Outlander (crikey, agreeing with a yank. must be a bad day)
my heart says we can do it. but my head says we won't quite. hope my heart wins.
have just heard Ben Kay on the radio talking about the game and how they will get any sleep tonight. not sure how I'll get any sleep tonight. but I felt like that four years ago so maybe, just maybe...
my heart says we can do it. but my head says we won't quite. hope my heart wins.
have just heard Ben Kay on the radio talking about the game and how they will get any sleep tonight. not sure how I'll get any sleep tonight. but I felt like that four years ago so maybe, just maybe...
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Monsieur,Outlander wrote:I can't QUITE get myself to believe.
Oh, it's possible. Almost likely. If we won, I would not be shocked or even startled.
In fact, I think we have a respectable, 35-65% chance of winning. If it were a 3 game series, I would think we would win at least once.
But it's not a 3 game series. It's one game. Winner take all.
And I think ENG is required to raise its game several levels above its normal cruising gear to be able to win. That's possible, but extremely difficult, and it would be two weeks in a row. It's almost hard to IMAGINE the improvement since the SA game necessary to win this semi-final.
Meanwhile, FRA are quite simply a more accomplished team. They have more bullets in their gun. They have played at a much higher level for years now. They are just a better team.
So, I can't quite believe. I think ENG will play nobly, but I don't see us winning this.
I do, however, hope. We've got a shot. A decent one. So let's ruck like hell, lads, and see if we can beat the odds again.
You are-a torturing a poor French fan who already hosts a million butterflies taking a complete tour of his stomach. So my post is : same as you, my friend !!!
Be serious about your chances and think man to man :
Milloud - Sheridan
Beauxis - Wilko
Traille - Robinson
ooooh I won't live till tomorrow...
Can I surrender now ? Can I support Wales ? Or Connacht ? Or Wigan ? (Frankly, they'd be better off playing rugby, isn't it...)
oooooh zis is the torture. When you think the stadium is only 20 away from here... Why don't I just run there and sleep in front of the gates. I mean if it wasn't for the gangs of homies who normally surround the place. I am forgetting the words of the Marseillaise. A hint anyone ?
Ooooooh if France could win !
Or I'll die in shame ! Poverty ? Thanks to the IRB, I already achieved it...
ALLEZ LES BLEUS !!!
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ZSF, I think we can all relate to each other pretty well. ENG fans and FRA fans can each see the vulnerabilities of their teams and of course the battle between these two teams is great year after year.
I dunno if you will consider this to be torture, mon ami, but I am a bit surprised that you aren't more confident.
But then, you know the French team a lot better than I do. I only see a few Premiership guys like Ibanez and Chabal now and then and a few international matches.
Ah, well, this is sport.
And it's the 4-year timing that creates the excruciating pressure. There is something diabolically brilliant about World Cup formats. If it were every year, it would not be anywhere near as intense.
Here in the US, we know almost nothing of this multi-year pressure. In our sports, we can forever say, "There's always next year." The Olympics come every 4 years, but they are individual efforts. I guess the closest we come to understanding is the Ryder Cup. Amazing how the year off between Ryder Cups turns the screw incredibly.
Incredible what a toll this takes on fans, players, and coaches!
I dunno if you will consider this to be torture, mon ami, but I am a bit surprised that you aren't more confident.
But then, you know the French team a lot better than I do. I only see a few Premiership guys like Ibanez and Chabal now and then and a few international matches.
Ah, well, this is sport.
And it's the 4-year timing that creates the excruciating pressure. There is something diabolically brilliant about World Cup formats. If it were every year, it would not be anywhere near as intense.
Here in the US, we know almost nothing of this multi-year pressure. In our sports, we can forever say, "There's always next year." The Olympics come every 4 years, but they are individual efforts. I guess the closest we come to understanding is the Ryder Cup. Amazing how the year off between Ryder Cups turns the screw incredibly.
Incredible what a toll this takes on fans, players, and coaches!
Just a Yankee looker-on from afar.
Hey! By the way, ZSF.
I call on you, speaking for your Rugby nation, to make us a deal.
IF you beat ENG tomorrow, ...
You dang well better beat South Africa! Don't be beating NZ and ENG and then failing to knock off the Boks.
Now, if it's Argentina, then may the best team win. I would be happy to accept either result of an ARG/FRA final.
Deal?
I call on you, speaking for your Rugby nation, to make us a deal.
IF you beat ENG tomorrow, ...
You dang well better beat South Africa! Don't be beating NZ and ENG and then failing to knock off the Boks.
Now, if it's Argentina, then may the best team win. I would be happy to accept either result of an ARG/FRA final.
Deal?
Just a Yankee looker-on from afar.
The savage hordes are coming Ze Stade Fan!!
Allons enfants de la Patrie
Le jour de gloire est arrivé
Contre nous de la tyrannie
L'étendard sanglant est levé
L'étendard sanglant est levé
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Allons enfants de la Patrie
Le jour de gloire est arrivé
Contre nous de la tyrannie
L'étendard sanglant est levé
L'étendard sanglant est levé
Entendez vous dans les campagnes mugir ces féroces soldats
Ils viennent jusque dans vos bras, égorger vos fils, vos compagnes
Aux armes citoyens!
Formez vos bataillons!
Marchons, marchons, qu'un sang impur abreuve nos sillons
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Thank you Bill, that helps a great deal...Bill W wrote:The savage hordes are coming Ze Stade Fan!!
Allons enfants de la Patrie
Le jour de gloire est arrivé
Contre nous de la tyrannie
L'étendard sanglant est levé
L'étendard sanglant est levé
Entendez vous dans les campagnes mugir ces féroces soldats
Ils viennent jusque dans vos bras, égorger vos fils, vos compagnes
Aux armes citoyens!
Formez vos bataillons!
Marchons, marchons, qu'un sang impur abreuve nos sillons
For those of you who hit too hard on the pre-match pint :
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ALLEZ LES BLEUS !!!
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Why not? After all the myopic geriatric will miss most if not all of the crooked feeds into the scrums, the blatant off sides, the going over the tops and coming in from the sides not to mention the odd trip and forward pass. Oh and of course the crooked throws into the line out and bringing players down in the air.
Apart from that he should have a good game!
Apart from that he should have a good game!