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Rugby tonight

Post by dpoc74 » Sun Oct 17, 2021 10:33 pm

Why isn’t rugby tonight more like match of the day? Or why is isn’t there an equivalent programme? I do like reading this forum after a match to see if what I saw/ thought I saw matched up with others opinion but after for example the sarries game today I would love to watch the highlights and hear what “experts” cough cough, have to say, and also to analyse all the other games?

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Re: Rugby tonight

Post by tigerburnie » Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:09 pm

Flatman ought to be given a show like this.
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Re: Rugby tonight

Post by westwinds31 » Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:12 pm

I’m old enough to remember when there was no live rugby, just Rugby Special with Nigel Starmer-Smith to look forward to ! BT’s argument is that the show highlights before the Sunday game covers it off, with comments.

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Re: Rugby tonight

Post by Snowdrop » Mon Oct 18, 2021 1:46 am

Have to say that I didn't enjoy RT earlier. The whole issue around Chiefs stuck in my throat. Who is the WASPS CEO or whatever he is to say that Chiefs are "appropriating culture" by their chant, use of headdress, club badge etc. He said he wasn't intending to create an issue. Oh yes he was. Chiefs never intended to offend anyone. I agree with Rob Baxter, that some want to make something from nothing. In todays culture, it is seemingly impossible to open your mouth without causing someone offence, regardless of whether it is intended or not. It won't be long before we just throw grey paint over everything.

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Re: Rugby tonight

Post by Scott1 » Mon Oct 18, 2021 1:58 am

Snowdrop wrote:
Mon Oct 18, 2021 1:46 am
Have to say that I didn't enjoy RT earlier. The whole issue around Chiefs stuck in my throat. Who is the WASPS CEO or whatever he is to say that Chiefs are "appropriating culture" by their chant, use of headdress, club badge etc. He said he wasn't intending to create an issue. Oh yes he was. Chiefs never intended to offend anyone. I agree with Rob Baxter, that some want to make something from nothing. In todays culture, it is seemingly impossible to open your mouth without causing someone offence, regardless of whether it is intended or not. It won't be long before we just throw grey paint over everything.
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Re: Rugby tonight

Post by dunc » Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:15 am

Snowdrop wrote:
Mon Oct 18, 2021 1:46 am
Have to say that I didn't enjoy RT earlier. The whole issue around Chiefs stuck in my throat. Who is the WASPS CEO or whatever he is to say that Chiefs are "appropriating culture" by their chant, use of headdress, club badge etc. He said he wasn't intending to create an issue. Oh yes he was. Chiefs never intended to offend anyone. I agree with Rob Baxter, that some want to make something from nothing. In todays culture, it is seemingly impossible to open your mouth without causing someone offence, regardless of whether it is intended or not. It won't be long before we just throw grey paint over everything.
Well that’s ok then as long as we unintentionally offend people. Does that hold true with everything, how about murder?

In today’s culture we are beginning to treat all people equally. I don’t really see the problem with that, do you?

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Re: Rugby tonight

Post by kk20gb30 » Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:07 am

I suppose that we have to remember that we 'lost' the Channel 5 highlights package at the seasons onset.This programme always seemed a little rushed however - to cram in highlights, opinion etc in 1 hour minus commercial breaks.
Have to admit though that I enjoy Rugby Tonight for what it is not for what it 'should' or 'could'' be.Anything that promotes the game in any way is fine by me , although I must concede, a dedicated highlights package is missing (I believe) from our TV screens.
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Re: Rugby tonight

Post by chris111 » Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:09 am

dunc wrote:
Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:15 am
Snowdrop wrote:
Mon Oct 18, 2021 1:46 am
Have to say that I didn't enjoy RT earlier. The whole issue around Chiefs stuck in my throat. Who is the WASPS CEO or whatever he is to say that Chiefs are "appropriating culture" by their chant, use of headdress, club badge etc. He said he wasn't intending to create an issue. Oh yes he was. Chiefs never intended to offend anyone. I agree with Rob Baxter, that some want to make something from nothing. In todays culture, it is seemingly impossible to open your mouth without causing someone offence, regardless of whether it is intended or not. It won't be long before we just throw grey paint over everything.
Well that’s ok then as long as we unintentionally offend people. Does that hold true with everything, how about murder?

In today’s culture we are beginning to treat all people equally. I don’t really see the problem with that, do you?
Sadly, Dunc, some people do have a problem with treat people with common politeness - they feel their own right to be boorish and insensitive is what matters. Fortunately it’s largely a generational thing - younger people are mostly getting it!

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Re: Rugby tonight

Post by ads » Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:13 am

Agree, we need a highlights show. Not othered what channel its on, but the channel five one with flats did always seem rushed to me...

"right, here [insert rugby team] v [insert rugby team]"
"so Flats what did you think of that"
"some good bits but some not great either"

Repeat for all games and maybe throw in a semi technical question after a incident...

"so, see you next week"

A match of day style programme, showing 10 minutes of highlights for each game and 2 or three experts/pundits critiquing, maybe a guest current player each week, could be good.

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Re: Rugby tonight

Post by ads » Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:13 am

chris111 wrote:
Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:09 am

Sadly, Dunc, some people do have a problem with treat people with common politeness - they feel their own right to be boorish and insensitive is what matters. Fortunately it’s largely a generational thing - younger people are mostly getting it!
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Re: Rugby tonight

Post by chewbacca » Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:14 am

I am offended by the wasps use of French in their chant. Allez Allez Allez. I wasn't aware they were a French team so perhaps they shouldn't misappropriate another nations language.
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Re: Rugby tonight

Post by JP14 » Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:35 am

I gave up on Rugby Tonight long ago.
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Re: Rugby tonight

Post by johnthegriff » Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:44 am

On another forum the subject of Exeter Chiefs branding and the wearing of Native American headwear has been discussed thoroughly. My view (very much in the minority) was and possibly still is that it is harmless fun unlikely to offend any member of the Sioux Nation as there are not many of them in Devon. I saw little difference between the wearing of a warbonnet and the wearing of a fez. Ian Cockerill, long time Tiger's fan and a voice on Radio Leicester shot me down in flames, he posed the question " If in the unlikely event Worcester Warriors asked their supporters to black up and come as Zulu Warriors would I call that racist?" and the answer was yes I would. I honestly don't believe that Chief's fans in their minds are doing anything other than supporting their team, is it harmless or is it racist? It is about drawing lines, some of the reservation shops do sell various items of their national dress including head wear, is the purchaser a racist or is it only when the wearing becomes semi-official apparel for a club that is completely unconnected to the plains Indians of America. I don't pretend to know the answer but I am certain that :censored: annoying dirge the Exeter fans chant should be banned along with the drums of London Irish.

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Re: Rugby tonight

Post by Pellsey » Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:46 am

ads wrote:
Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:13 am
chris111 wrote:
Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:09 am

Sadly, Dunc, some people do have a problem with treat people with common politeness - they feel their own right to be boorish and insensitive is what matters. Fortunately it’s largely a generational thing - younger people are mostly getting it!
This guy gets it!
Disagree. People of my generation just did not get offended anything like as easily. I would argue that people are far too sensitive nowadays rather than my generation being insensitive. Virtually anything can offend the younger generation, if they so wish. It's pathetic.

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Re: Rugby tonight

Post by Old Hob » Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:56 am

" If in the unlikely event Worcester Warriors asked their supporters to black up and come as Zulu Warriors would I call that racist?"

Not necessarily. It's just some people dressing up as some other people. A bit like the bloke at any wedding who wears a kilt when he's actually from Walsall.
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