Fed up with the petty squabbling

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Re: Fed up with the petty squabbling

Post by jgriffin » Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:43 pm

Smudge wrote:I can live with the usual obvious "typos" and shrug off the modern trend
where anything goes.
What really annoys me is the ignorant use of the word "of" instead
of "have".
It was used three times in an email I received yesterday from "Homebase".
It is not up to me correct anyone's spelling but this sort of thing makes
my blood boil and despair of the educational system in the UK.
I have a Swiss student who does British A-level exams in her third language - she speaks German, French, English and Italian in that order.
She manages to spell words correctly, use correct grammar and so on.
Dyslexics have an excuse (my stepson is one)but others don't. Don't blame teachers, they have tried their best. Too many of the students are fully paid up members of the CBA squad (can't be aXXXXd)along with their parents and ther homes where there are no books. I teach A levels and a third of my students 'don't read'. They do know how to play on their mobiles and have PhDs in FaceBook. That's where the problem lies.
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Re: Fed up with the petty squabbling

Post by os99 » Thu Mar 14, 2013 1:05 pm

jgriffin wrote:
Smudge wrote:I can live with the usual obvious "typos" and shrug off the modern trend
where anything goes.
What really annoys me is the ignorant use of the word "of" instead
of "have".
It was used three times in an email I received yesterday from "Homebase".
It is not up to me correct anyone's spelling but this sort of thing makes
my blood boil and despair of the educational system in the UK.
I have a Swiss student who does British A-level exams in her third language - she speaks German, French, English and Italian in that order.
She manages to spell words correctly, use correct grammar and so on.
Dyslexics have an excuse (my stepson is one)but others don't. Don't blame teachers, they have tried their best. Too many of the students are fully paid up members of the CBA squad (can't be aXXXXd)along with their parents and ther homes where there are no books. I teach A levels and a third of my students 'don't read'. They do know how to play on their mobiles and have PhDs in FaceBook. That's where the problem lies.
What on earth does this have to do with Leicester Tigers?

I thought this was a rugby forum!

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Re: Fed up with the petty squabbling

Post by Phil B » Thu Mar 14, 2013 2:28 pm

Valid point. It's called drift. I would say it (this thread) has run its course now.
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I could agree with you...but then we'd both be wrong.

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Re: Fed up with the petty squabbling

Post by Smudge » Thu Mar 14, 2013 2:28 pm

W
what on earth does this have to do with Leicester Tigers?

I thought this was a rugby forum!
Without insulting you, being sharp or putting you down, don't you think
you should have read the previous posts to this thread before making that comment?
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Re: Fed up with the petty squabbling

Post by os99 » Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:39 pm

Smudge wrote:W
what on earth does this have to do with Leicester Tigers?

I thought this was a rugby forum!
Without insulting you, being sharp or putting you down, don't you think
you should have read the previous posts to this thread before making that comment?
Regardless of the previous posts it still has nothing to do with rugby.

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Re: Fed up with the petty squabbling

Post by DaveRave » Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:03 pm

Oh I don't know, all this talk of spelling has suddenly made me nostalgic for the days when the players had letters rather than numbers on their shirts.

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Re: Fed up with the petty squabbling

Post by Smurphswillgetya » Fri Mar 15, 2013 12:49 pm

DaveRave wrote:Oh I don't know, all this talk of spelling has suddenly made me nostalgic for the days when the players had letters rather than numbers on their shirts.
That's when it all started to go wrong. You could no longer learn what ABC meant! Or the letter O was the start of a phrase when the full back dropped the ball.
Of course this is my own opinion and other posters may have a different perceived factual viewpoint.

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Re: Fed up with the petty squabbling

Post by DaveRave » Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:37 pm

I remember years ago when we were due to play Northampton. The stains wore letters in those days as well. There was a cartoon in the Telegraph of the Tigers players spelling out 'NEIL BACK' and the Stains players spelling out 'NICK BEAL' and pointing out that the names were anagrams of each other.

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Re: Fed up with the petty squabbling

Post by Isambard » Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:54 pm

Totally agree with jgriffin. People don't read so they can't spell.

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Re: Fed up with the petty squabbling

Post by biffer » Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:06 pm

WhitecapTiger wrote:
Ze Stade Fan wrote:(BTW is it "a" or "an" honest laugh?)
ZSF - I'm assuming this was a genuine question :smt002 I have always worked on the basis of the sound of the following word. If the word has a vowel (A,E,I,O,U) sounding start then it's 'An' or 'an', it if has a consonant (Remaining letters of the alphabet) sounding start then is 'A' or 'a'.

A Howling wind; A Cat

An Honest mistake - the starting sound (at least to me) is the 'O'; An artist.

etc etc

It's the sound rather than the physical spelling (I think!), I'm not A teacher but seem to remember this, hope it, and the following link helps :smt003 (Just AN example from google!)

http://www.englishclub.com/pronunciation/a-an.htm

P.S. Please don't ban me for a month for 'trying' to assist with grammar :smt003 :smt003
I was always taught that it depends on where the stress is in a word starting with an aspirated (i.e. sounded) h. If the stress is on the first syllable it's 'a' and if it's on a later syllable it's 'an'. So you have

An hotel
A hospital

but I was also told it's not a hard and fast rule and it's not really that important as in modern usage either is acceptable. If a language stops changing it soon dies.

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Re: Fed up with the petty squabbling

Post by sapajo » Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:07 pm

Isambard wrote:The era of the pompous and autocratic teacher has gone!!
No its alive and well under this post titled "Fed up with petty squabbling" . Well I suppose it does qualify because I am fed up with it, it is undeniably petty and it has resulted in even more inane squabbling :smt023
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Re: Fed up with the petty squabbling

Post by jgriffin » Fri Mar 15, 2013 6:00 pm

Not at all inane! We have now sorted out there are three camps (as usual) on here :smt005

1 spelling/grammar tight-arXXs like me :smt006

2 cudnt spel cudnt care les :smt018

3 'what has this to do with rugby' banter-free zones :smt019
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Re: Fed up with the petty squabbling

Post by shedhead1 » Fri Mar 15, 2013 6:15 pm

jgriffin wrote:Not at all inane! We have now sorted out there are three camps (as usual) on here :smt005

1 spelling/grammar tight-arXXs like me :smt006

2 cudnt spel cudnt care les :smt018

3 'what has this to do with rugby' banter-free zones :smt019
Shedhead 1 here

Make that 4. Glaws supporters wondering whats going on in this once great Rugby Forum :smt022

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Re: Fed up with the petty squabbling

Post by tigerburnie » Fri Mar 15, 2013 7:56 pm

Will be all better once we've got a game to talk about.
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Re: Fed up with the petty squabbling

Post by WiggoTiger » Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:23 pm

shedhead1 wrote:
jgriffin wrote:Not at all inane! We have now sorted out there are three camps (as usual) on here :smt005

1 spelling/grammar tight-arXXs like me :smt006

2 cudnt spel cudnt care les :smt018

3 'what has this to do with rugby' banter-free zones :smt019
Shedhead 1 here

Make that 4. Glaws supporters wondering whats going on in this once great Rugby Forum :smt022

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