African water - do something!

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African water - do something!

Post by Kinoulton » Thu Dec 27, 2012 3:51 pm

I daresay the current proliferation of adverts is a massive switch-off but honestly it would be so simple to save millions of lives.

One of the odd things about the African conditions, heat, humidity and lack of vitamins in the soil is that diarrhea can be an absolute killer.

My own daughter lost half her bodyweight in three days. I'm not suggesting we all take to the streets rattling begging tins, but a minute proportion of the budgets of UK, France, Germany, Russia, USA etc would solve it.

Put pressure on your local MP and we might get somewhere. There is a massive force for saying we shouldn't tamper with embryos and yet we allow millions of living children to die horrible deaths and it's barely on the radar.

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Post by CJ » Thu Dec 27, 2012 10:33 pm

dead right, Kinny. I do some voluntary work in a village in Zambia and there have been two key elements: malaria nets and bore holes to bring safe and plentiful water. Both are cheap and each has made a huge difference to the people in the village.

It takes a pitiful amount of money to do a lot of good.

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Post by Tigerbeat » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:03 pm

CJ wrote:dead right, Kinny. I do some voluntary work in a village in Zambia and there have been two key elements: malaria nets and bore holes to bring safe and plentiful water. Both are cheap and each has made a huge difference to the people in the village.

It takes a pitiful amount of money to do a lot of good.
Where abouts in Zambia do you work. Used to live there
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Post by CJ » Fri Dec 28, 2012 9:55 pm

village of Kasalu, Chikumbi district. about 40 km north of Lusaka but a world away in what they have. we work through a very small charity called Baraka (means blessing in several languages - google it!). We are about to stop work in Kasalu as they could be self sufficient and move on to the next village where the need for water is paramount and the water table is lower.

we live with the local people in their huts. hard but by heck it teaches you how lucky we are.

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Post by Tigerbeat » Fri Dec 28, 2012 10:08 pm

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Post by St John Tiger » Fri Dec 28, 2012 11:30 pm

Not sure what this has to do with rugby? However since the topic has been discussed, have you any idea how much money has been donated to Africa in the last 50 years? Africa has been given $billions in aid and has little to show for it due to corruption and mismanagement. Send a few million to Africa, the president needs a new jet! You would be better off giving/raising money for local charaties.

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Post by BJ. » Sat Dec 29, 2012 5:18 am

St John Tiger wrote:Not sure what this has to do with rugby?
As it says here, this section of the forum is for non-rugby related chat.
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Post by Kinoulton » Sat Dec 29, 2012 9:35 am

Very interested in CJ's post.

When I worked in Lagos I would always dash my driver a few Naira as he was a good lad. It would immediately go to his mother's village where he assured me it made a huge difference.

As for what we have done thus far? Well Live Aid raised £8m, which was a great effort, but for heaven's sake we are talking about Africa. A massive, massive continent. £8m will do lots of good but it won't solve enough.
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Post by Rizzo » Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:30 pm

I have in the past given via WaterAid for the purpose Kinny is talking about - but recently I have signed up to sponsor a little girl through school in Haiti, it only costs £10 a month and it means the world to her and her family.

I have also signed up to GiveAsYouLive.com. you download a small programme to your computer and register, and every time you shop online, the retailer donates a percentage to your chosen charity. Mine is currently The Andrew Grene Foundation, building schools and helping children in Haiti. Give as you Live costs you nothing, but donations are raised via various retailers, for example M&S give 1.5% of your online spend, other retailers give between 1% and up to 4% for some. it's worth looking into.
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Re: African water - do something!

Post by paula123 » Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:49 pm

Rizzo what you are doing sounds like a great idea as long as you are 100% certain that your £10 per month actually goes to this child and her family.

I know completely different and irrelevant but i used to sponsor a lioness at the Isle of White Zoo.I did so for 5 years.I received updates every 6 months(photos,and messages etc.)When we were holidaying on the Island we decided to visit the Zoo and in particular Diamond(the Lioness i sponsored)only to find out that she had died a year ago!I hadn't been informed of this yet my money was still being taken every month from my account.When i approached the Manager i was told that the Zoo was still very grateful of my money even though it wasn't going on what it was supposed to!

I suppose what i am saying is i would donate a lot more money if i knew,(and was confident)that it was going where it is supposed too.

As said in another post with all the Millions/Billions sent to Africa why is their still so much suffering?
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Post by Rizzo » Sat Dec 29, 2012 9:40 pm

I understand what you are saying, Paula, but I am 100% sure of this. My friend works for the Andrew Grene Foundation as head of fundraising, she has visited the school built in Andrew's name several times, and has spent time with all the children. I had a nice handwritten letter from Saindie, the girl I am sponsoring, just before Christmas with little drawings she had coloured with her paper and crayons provided by the foundation.

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Re: African water - do something!

Post by CJ » Sat Dec 29, 2012 10:09 pm

and I know for a fact that any money I donate to Baraka goes to the villages. They use the gift aid for any admin like postage.

I too sponsor a girl from the village and hope that she gets good enough results to go to agricultural college. If so I will pay her fees and I will pay direct to the college. none of the money goes through the government or civil service in any way.

When we go to stay, each family gets $15 a day for our keep, plus we go to the supermarket and bring bags of meal, flour, some soap etc etc with us. that's not to mention all the clothes, shoes and everything else that we take with us (we book through a specific travel agent which means we can have three bags of 23 kg)

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Re: African water - do something!

Post by tigerburnie » Sun Dec 30, 2012 1:35 pm

I would rather support the Bodie Hodges local charity myself, each to their own, but I have sent enough money to Africa and it does not seem to have much effect.
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