Richard causes excitement in Tigerland!

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Re: Richard causes excitement in Tigerland!

Post by Bill W (2) » Sun Oct 28, 2012 6:23 pm

National Press reporting that if DNA evidence proves it to be him he will be reburied in Leicester Cathedral.

Good decision.

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Re: Richard causes excitement in Tigerland!

Post by CJ » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:08 pm

burial in Leicester confirmed
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-20116118

seems the Yorkists are upset but, hey, he's been here for over 600 years so he's a Leicester lad now.

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Re: Richard causes excitement in Tigerland!

Post by Rizzo » Sun Feb 03, 2013 3:04 pm

For those who don't know - the DNA results will be announced at 10.00am GMT tomorrow, there will be live updates from the University of Leicester twitter feed.

@uniofleicester

Facebook updates here

https://www.facebook.com/kingrichardleicester

Information on live streaming here

http://www.le.ac.uk/richardiii/
and Channel 4 will screen a documentary about the dig and the results on Monday evening at 9pm - the crew are apparently setting up at the Guildhall now and not even they know the outcome yet!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-le ... e-21292381

and for those outside Leicester, or those who dohn't have the Mercury - is this slightly spooky?

http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/R ... story.html
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Re: Richard causes excitement in Tigerland!

Post by Rizzo » Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:02 pm

Fascinating press conference, so many "lucky" strands coming together. Well done to the whole investigative team.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-le ... e-21063882

Looking forward to the TV programme tonight, and the eventual re-burial in Leicester Cathedral of the remains of Richard Plantagenet, King of England.
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Re: Richard causes excitement in Tigerland!

Post by APJones » Mon Feb 04, 2013 4:45 pm

Amazing what you come across in a city council car park :smt007
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Re: Richard causes excitement in Tigerland!

Post by jgriffin » Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:50 pm

Hate to be a sceptic but the slight qualifications hinted at in the articles plus the limited DNA evidence tells us this is one of the family, but not necessarily him and that the person met a violent death.
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Post by cornish tigress » Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:56 am

Loved the Elizabeth Windsor tweet this morning that Richard wasn't the only one off his horse during the documentary! I guess it's nice to have your bones dug up by a big fan though, albeit one slightly of her rocker. Great programme.
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Re: Richard causes excitement in Tigerland!

Post by Rizzo » Tue Feb 05, 2013 5:19 pm

jgriffin wrote:Hate to be a sceptic but the slight qualifications hinted at in the articles plus the limited DNA evidence tells us this is one of the family, but not necessarily him and that the person met a violent death.

Disagree. One or two pieces of evidence alone could have indicated it *might* be him.

Taken all together, the two lines of DNA from the two individuals descended from Anne of York, the position of the body in Greyfriars church - in the choir area which was documented as being a potential burial site, the battle wounds, the age range of the carbon dating, and the physicality of the skeleton (curvature of the spine, slight build etc) and the amazing reconstruction of the face from the skull remains - I have no doubt at all.

(Philippa Langley is certainly not as obsessively bonkers as the C4 programme made out, she is a very educated woman with a passion for a historical subject. As usual TV media manipulate people and their emotions for public mirth).
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Re: Richard causes excitement in Tigerland!

Post by old one eye » Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:43 pm

APJones wrote:Amazing what you come across in a city council car park :smt007

I'm amazed he got out of the car park without paying :smt005

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Re: Richard causes excitement in Tigerland!

Post by tigerburnie » Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:17 pm

The program left me bemused,I was really looking forward to it and now we are left with nagging doubts. That art critic and some of the society members were really off the plot. The science proved their pre-determined agenda was wrong and apart from a dodgy invented arm,Shakespeare wasn't that far off the mark after all.
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Re: Richard causes excitement in Tigerland!

Post by Rizzo » Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:54 am

My best friend has scoliosis, and I can assure you it isn't a "hunchback" or a "crookback" :smt002 Shakespeare wrote a play loosely based on a historical character, much as he did with Julius Caesar, MacBeth and so on - I very much doubt Richard III "laid in his mother's womb two years" or that he was born with a full set of teeth and hair down to shoulders - as Shakespeare claims.

I am very much looking forward to a chance to go round the new exhibition opening in the Guildhall at the end of the week, lots of evidence and scientific stuff as well as historical.
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Re: Richard causes excitement in Tigerland!

Post by cornish tigress » Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:29 am

Rizzo wrote: (Philippa Langley is certainly not as obsessively bonkers as the C4 programme made out, she is a very educated woman with a passion for a historical subject. As usual TV media manipulate people and their emotions for public mirth).
I had a feeling that was probably the case. She was clearly very moved by the whole thing. I think it is good to have someone with some respect for the individual when a body is dug up. I think it just got a bit overplayed so viewers were rolling their eyes by the end. Shame. Such an amazing story, I'd had the programme date on my calendar for weeks, I was so excited.
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Re: Richard causes excitement in Tigerland!

Post by tigerburnie » Wed Feb 06, 2013 10:21 am

Rizzo wrote:My best friend has scoliosis, and I can assure you it isn't a "hunchback" or a "crookback" :smt002 Shakespeare wrote a play loosely based on a historical character, much as he did with Julius Caesar, MacBeth and so on - I very much doubt Richard III "laid in his mother's womb two years" or that he was born with a full set of teeth and hair down to shoulders - as Shakespeare claims.

I am very much looking forward to a chance to go round the new exhibition opening in the Guildhall at the end of the week, lots of evidence and scientific stuff as well as historical.

I was referring to his appearance Rizzo, more than the whole tale.
There's a bit of a party atmosphere around Bath this afternoon - but you wouldn't get that at Leicester if we finished ninth." Richard Cockerill 7/5/16

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Re: Richard causes excitement in Tigerland!

Post by Rizzo » Wed Feb 06, 2013 3:46 pm

I expect those who are cynical will remain so, and those who are happy to accept the team's declaration of "beyond reasonable doubt" will also do so.

I do wish that the media would learn the difference betweeen "interment" and "internment" - the King's remains are not being imprisoned or held in captivity!
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Re: Richard causes excitement in Tigerland!

Post by tigerburnie » Wed Feb 06, 2013 3:55 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-le ... e-21340068

On a more positive note, this museum idea sounds a good one.
There's a bit of a party atmosphere around Bath this afternoon - but you wouldn't get that at Leicester if we finished ninth." Richard Cockerill 7/5/16

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