Premiership Final v Saracens - 18th June 2022 KO 15:00

[nicmattyg]

Looked red all day long mitigation was Montoya was the dominant impact. Wondering if there has been new guidance we haven’t heard about

I think there must have been, the red cards have reduced a lot of late

They only want reds for tackles of force. Foley bottles it completely, he was late calling it as well. Montoya told the officials straight away.

I'm not sure how a scrum half felling a hooker immediately with a shot to the head doesn't count as a dominant hit.

Red all day long. Seemed desperate to find some mitigation and settled on non dominant hit. Absolute bottle job from Barnes. Agree with others there may be some other conversations going on to be a little more lenient with head contact

[Jimmy Skitz]

Looked red all day long mitigation was Montoya was the dominant impact. Wondering if there has been new guidance we haven’t heard about

I think there must have been, the red cards have reduced a lot of late

They only want reds for tackles of force. Foley bottles it completely, he was late calling it as well. Montoya told the officials straight away.

I'm not sure how a scrum half felling a hooker immediately with a shot to the head doesn't count as a dominant hit.

it seems you have to drive them backwards to be classed as dominant

[speedski]

I have to say, you might think Wiggy looks slow or tired, but he's the reason we're ahead. HE's clearly spent a long time this week memorising the various plans.

Genge quiet, expect him to push on 2nd half.

Another tense 40 ahead.

[tigercub21]

I thought Chessum has been great so far. Really solid at the line outs and has been so dynamic in his carrying.

[Old Hob]

TMO seems keen to call out Tigers offences

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Should have been red imo, but at least we took advantage of the yellow.

Proper nail biting this. Probably not a game for the neutrals.

[Jimmy Skitz]

The ref / TMO chat in the last few weeks has discussed who is dominant and moving forwards. I am not sure the science of concussion would back their analysis.

yeah Montoya provided the force but it was Davies who brought the danger, the last 2 posts have changed my mind now, that should have been red

[speedski]

I think there must have been, the red cards have reduced a lot of late

They only want reds for tackles of force. Foley bottles it completely, he was late calling it as well. Montoya told the officials straight away.

I'm not sure how a scrum half felling a hooker immediately with a shot to the head doesn't count as a dominant hit.

it seems you have to drive them backwards to be classed as dominant

Which is crazy - as a back is never going to dominate a forward in the moving scenario.

I have to say its a red for me due to lack of drop & arms. Add the direct contact to the head shouldn't be yellow.

I feel the sarries and dayglo bias makes that a yellow.

[Scott1]

What did you expect?! They got away with one on Ford earlier in the season too

[Rugbygramps]

I have to say, you might think Wiggy looks slow or tired, but he's the reason we're ahead. HE's clearly spent a long time this week memorising the various plans.

Genge quiet, expect him to push on 2nd half.

Another tense 40 ahead.

Genge letting others doing the chat, Coley and Ford before the game, just quietly leading

[Bge3095]

Lol D saying that the mitigation was Montoya falling….pretty sure it was the force involved.
8/10 would surely been a red.

[Rugbygramps]

They only want reds for tackles of force. Foley bottles it completely, he was late calling it as well. Montoya told the officials straight away.

I'm not sure how a scrum half felling a hooker immediately with a shot to the head doesn't count as a dominant hit.

it seems you have to drive them backwards to be classed as dominant

Which is crazy - as a back is never going to dominate a forward in the moving scenario.

I have to say its a red for me due to lack of drop & arms. Add the direct contact to the head shouldn't be yellow.

I feel the sarries and dayglo bias makes that a yellow.

Ugo goes red Dayglo yellow quell surprise

[Downsouth]

I hope our fitness and bench count now. BTW based on other games red all day long but this way they have no excuses if we win

[nicmattyg]

This is going to be a tense 40. We’re in a great position to win this, just keep doing what we’ve been doing and take the points when they’re on offer. We’ve looked the better team

[Rugbygramps]

I thought Chessum has been great so far. Really solid at the line outs and has been so dynamic in his carrying.

Huge game like having an extra 6 on the pitch