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Tigers vs Wasps - 04th June 2022 KO 15:00

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Sarries are only 3 points behind but we have won 2 games more so if we end up level on points we finish top. So, any form of win, a draw or 2 BP loss will do. Obviously I'd hope and even expect us to win this one but we can't take anything for granted. So..

15. Steward
14. Potter
13. Moroni
12. Scott
11. Nadolo
10. Ford
9. Youngs
1. Genge
2. Montoya
3. Cole
4. Chessum
5. Wells
6. Liebenberg
7. Reffell
8. Weise

Bench: Clare, Whitcombe, Heyes, Henderson, Martin, JvP, Burns, Porter

Go strong, get the job done then bring players off after 50-60 minutes if we are far enough ahead. Would like to see Scott get the starting shirt alongside Moroni. If Youngs is fit I'd bring him back in to start, if not I'd start JvP with Wigglesworth on the bench. Henderson on the bench again for some more game time. If Whitcombe is fit I would bring him back in. Would definitely have Reffell in at 7 for a natural jackler as Wasps are very strong in this department. We want to maintain a 100% home record in the Premiership this season and clearly want to secure top spot so this is the side I'd send out. Also.. the Newcastle match looked pretty disjointed for large parts so I'd like to see a strong side out so they can iron out these errors prior to the derby SF against Saints (most likely).. Just my thoughts of course..
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Re: Tigers vs Wasps - 04th June 2022 KO 15:00

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OakhamTiger32 wrote: Sun May 22, 2022 11:09 am Sarries are only 3 points behind but we have won 2 games more so if we end up level on points we finish top. So, any form of win, a draw or 2 BP loss will do. Obviously I'd hope and even expect us to win this one but we can't take anything for granted. So..

15. Steward
14. Potter
13. Moroni
12. Scott
11. Nadolo
10. Ford
9. Youngs
1. Genge
2. Montoya
3. Cole
4. Chessum
5. Wells
6. Liebenberg
7. Reffell
8. Weise

Bench: Clare, Whitcombe, Heyes, Henderson, Martin, JvP, Burns, Porter

Go strong, get the job done then bring players off after 50-60 minutes if we are far enough ahead. Would like to see Scott get the starting shirt alongside Moroni. If Youngs is fit I'd bring him back in to start, if not I'd start JvP with Wigglesworth on the bench. Henderson on the bench again for some more game time. If Whitcombe is fit I would bring him back in. Would definitely have Reffell in at 7 for a natural jackler as Wasps are very strong in this department. We want to maintain a 100% home record in the Premiership this season and clearly want to secure top spot so this is the side I'd send out. Also.. the Newcastle match looked pretty disjointed for large parts so I'd like to see a strong side out so they can iron out these errors prior to the derby SF against Saints (most likely).. Just my thoughts of course..
Totally agree with Oakham, only previso as usual is that MVS and Kelly are ready for a bench spot then would like to see them. Also wonder if it might be a chance to give Vanes some game time, just in case given the Dolly injury
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Re: Tigers vs Wasps - 04th June 2022 KO 15:00

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Wasps will be going all out to get a win to gain Champions Cup rugby…..a lot at stake for them so am expecting a tough game.
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Tigerbeat wrote: Sun May 22, 2022 11:25 am Wasps will be going all out to get a win to gain Champions Cup rugby…..a lot at stake for them so am expecting a tough game.
Spot on Tigerbeat. That May of course be advantageous for us as means they may leave themselves more open as they need the win for Europe
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Re: Tigers vs Wasps - 04th June 2022 KO 15:00

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Agree with all the above, go big, treat it like knockout rugby. With the usual provisos of fitness requirements.
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Re: Tigers vs Wasps - 04th June 2022 KO 15:00

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Selection at 2 & 16 for me is down to Montoya's fitness, with Dolly out, the last thing we can afford is no Montoya in the knockouts.

If Montoya's fully fit start him and look to replace him early (no matter the current score). If we're happy with the gametime Clare's had then I'd go Vanes on the bench, gets him gametime just in case and reduces the chances of Clare getting injured.

However if he's still carrying a niggle I'd rest Montoya, yes it would mean he may be rusty for the semifinal, but I'd rather have a rusty Montoya than no Montoya, especially with no Dolly
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TigerFeetSteve wrote: Sun May 22, 2022 12:57 pm Selection at 2 & 16 for me is down to Montoya's fitness, with Dolly out, the last thing we can afford is no Montoya in the knockouts.

If Montoya's fully fit start him and look to replace him early (no matter the current score). If we're happy with the gametime Clare's had then I'd go Vanes on the bench, gets him gametime just in case and reduces the chances of Clare getting injured.

However if he's still carrying a niggle I'd rest Montoya, yes it would mean he may be rusty for the semifinal, but I'd rather have a rusty Montoya than no Montoya, especially with no Dolly
Managing Montoya is essential and I am certain if there is any doubt over his fitness then he won't feature. Far better to have him fit and firing for the SF and beyond than risk him
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Re: Tigers vs Wasps - 04th June 2022 KO 15:00

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Ashton in for Nadolo, he's looking hungry in defence and attack every time I've seen him play. Nadolo, sadly, slow and lumbering and kicks the ball like an old fashioned prop.
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Re: Tigers vs Wasps - 04th June 2022 KO 15:00

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Old Hob wrote: Sun May 22, 2022 3:02 pm Ashton in for Nadolo, he's looking hungry in defence and attack every time I've seen him play. Nadolo, sadly, slow and lumbering and kicks the ball like an old fashioned prop.
I did think that too but I know SB likes Nadolo to come in field and he's also been great bulldozing through the middle creating gaps. He didn't perhaps have his best game against Newcastle but either Nadolo or Ashton would be great imho :smt023
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Re: Tigers vs Wasps - 04th June 2022 KO 15:00

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I know Nadolo struggles defensively sometimes, but he's directly responsible for minimum one try every single match, whether by walking through the opposition or being marked by 4 defenders and creating a walk in for someone else.

Has to be in the 23 if fit.
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Tiglon wrote: Sun May 22, 2022 3:48 pm I know Nadolo struggles defensively sometimes, but he's directly responsible for minimum one try every single match, whether by walking through the opposition or being marked by 4 defenders and creating a walk in for someone else.

Has to be in the 23 if fit.
IMO if in the 23 he starts and replaced after 50 or so if required
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Tiglon wrote: Sun May 22, 2022 3:48 pm I know Nadolo struggles defensively sometimes, but he's directly responsible for minimum one try every single match, whether by walking through the opposition or being marked by 4 defenders and creating a walk in for someone else.

Has to be in the 23 if fit.
Big men like him will not turn on a sixpence, Jonah Lomu was much the same, the threat they create by just being there gives you an edge, he knows where the whitewash is and knows how to get there, his try yesterday shows, the way he twisted round to wrong side the defence from being able to stop him grounding the ball was class.
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tigerburnie wrote: Sun May 22, 2022 5:59 pm
Tiglon wrote: Sun May 22, 2022 3:48 pm I know Nadolo struggles defensively sometimes, but he's directly responsible for minimum one try every single match, whether by walking through the opposition or being marked by 4 defenders and creating a walk in for someone else.

Has to be in the 23 if fit.
Big men like him will not turn on a sixpence, Jonah Lomu was much the same, the threat they create by just being there gives you an edge, he knows where the whitewash is and knows how to get there, his try yesterday shows, the way he twisted round to wrong side the defence from being able to stop him grounding the ball was class.
I really like Nadolo but you have to start him as you never know how long he will last for which is dependant on his involvement . Will miss him being here next season if the rumours are true but Watson is class and at the peak of his powers.
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Re: Tigers vs Wasps - 04th June 2022 KO 15:00

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Stooke was stretchered off. Launchbury has withdraw from the England camp, but doesn't sound too serious. Perhaps some issues at lock for Wasps.
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Re: Tigers vs Wasps - 04th June 2022 KO 15:00

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Old Hob wrote: Sun May 22, 2022 3:02 pm Ashton in for Nadolo, he's looking hungry in defence and attack every time I've seen him play. Nadolo, sadly, slow and lumbering and kicks the ball like an old fashioned prop.
Disagree. Nadolo got left grasping at thin air for the Radwan step but in the same move Porter got stepped and left for dead. Ashton had Carreras go past him on the outside a few times in the second half. The Falcons have some extremely quick wingers and our backline isn't the quickest generally.

Nadolo creates a lot of chances and scores plenty of tries for us. If the semi is against Saints I'd 100% start him for that as their backs don't stand up well to the power game. Against Wasps I'm open as Gopperth and Fekitoa are normally good at the big shots, might be worth going with a bit more pace, maybe give Murimurivalu or Saumaki a go on the left and Potter on the right. Rotate through our options a bit.
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