LEICESTER TIGERS 2021/22 SQUAD/TRANSFERS/CONTRACTS: Steve Borthwick and the Chamber of Oval Park

[Rugbygramps]

I think this is what was known as Gatlands Law. Says it all really

[Tigers86asw]

Lots of chat about the province system. Worth noting that it hasn’t really worked in Wales or Scotland but has in Ireland. Once reason for that I guess- fans go to the games in Ireland.

[Rugbygramps]

Lots of chat about the province system. Worth noting that it hasn’t really worked in Wales or Scotland but has in Ireland. Once reason for that I guess- fans go to the games in Ireland.

I think another reason is that in Ireland the rugby union and the provinces work together. That isn’t always the case in the other 2 countries

[RagingBull]

The annoying thing about Wales is why does Biggar get a pass but not Reffell?
The crazy thing is he's the welsh captain this 6N's and he would've missed all the extra training days

[Jimmy Skitz]

The annoying thing about Wales is why does Bigger get a pass but not Reffell?
The crazy thing is he's the welsh captain this 6N's and he would've missed all the extra training days

Rees-Zamit too, bet he’s loving the thought of having to join the regions at the end of this contract

[Tigerbeat]

The annoying thing about Wales is why does Biggar get a pass but not Reffell?
The crazy thing is he's the welsh captain this 6N's and he would've missed all the extra training days

Has Biggar got more than 60 caps…..I thought that allowed him to play outside Wales or am I making that up?

[Tigers86asw]

Coaching deficit as well. Compare the coaching groups in Ireland to that in Wales- wow

[sam16111986]

The annoying thing about Wales is why does Biggar get a pass but not Reffell?
The crazy thing is he's the welsh captain this 6N's and he would've missed all the extra training days

Has Biggar got more than 60 caps…..I thought that allowed him to play outside Wales or am I making that up?

There's a 60 cap exemption that's right. Biggar has 100 caps for Wales and therefore is free to play outside Wales.

Rees-Zammit was rumoured to have signed a four year deal in 2020. He's on 16 caps currently so has a couple more years to get enough caps to avoid having to join a region. Looks unlikely he'll make it.

[RagingBull]

I know why I just don't get the difference?
I get the idea he's paid his dues to welsh rugby, but Reffell isn't even a product of welsh system so why should the limit apply to him?

[Nofrontteeth]

Lots of chat about the province system. Worth noting that it hasn’t really worked in Wales or Scotland but has in Ireland. Once reason for that I guess- fans go to the games in Ireland.

I think another reason is that in Ireland the rugby union and the provinces work together. That isn’t always the case in the other 2 countries

Not sure but the 'tribal provinces' in the unified Irish rugby map are familiar to Irish sports culture. The GAA factor?

[Jimmy Skitz]

the results since they brought this in suggest its hurting the national team too and it must be limiting the player pool as internationals who would be in England or France are taking up a spot where someone else could break through.

And its clearly not helping the regions themselves

[Rugbygramps]

I know why I just don't get the difference?
I get the idea he's paid his dues to welsh rugby, but Reffell isn't even a product of welsh system so why should the limit apply to him?

He did play age grade rugby for Wales all the way through, but I do get your point about his rugby education being outside the principality

[Jimmy Skitz]

Lots of chat about the province system. Worth noting that it hasn’t really worked in Wales or Scotland but has in Ireland. Once reason for that I guess- fans go to the games in Ireland.

I think another reason is that in Ireland the rugby union and the provinces work together. That isn’t always the case in the other 2 countries

Not sure but the 'tribal provinces' in the unified Irish rugby map are familiar to Irish sports culture. The GAA factor?

imagine if we had regions, if East midlands was based here would Saints fans cheer for them? Or if it was there would our fans cheer for them? Or would those fans simply be lost?

[Scott1]

Isn’t Reffell the only U20 captain to ever captain them outside of Wales too?

[Rugbygramps]

I think another reason is that in Ireland the rugby union and the provinces work together. That isn’t always the case in the other 2 countries

Not sure but the 'tribal provinces' in the unified Irish rugby map are familiar to Irish sports culture. The GAA factor?

imagine if we had regions, if East midlands was based here would Saints fans cheer for them? Or if it was there would our fans cheer for them? Or would those fans simply be lost?

I think a lot of supporters would be lost certainly in this area, where there is a lot of historical fan bases. In London I’m not so sure there seems to be a lot less geographical boundaries