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Have put together a list of current points, remaining fixtures, max points (postions they can finish)

Tigers 86 (Falcons A, Wasps H) 96 (1st/2nd)
Sarries 82 (Saints H, Glaws A) 92 (1st-3rd)
Quins 74 (Glaws H, Exeter A) 84 (2nd-5th)
Saints 68 (Sarries A, Falcons H) 78 (3rd-7th)
Glaws 67 (Quins A, Sarries H) 77 (3rd-7th)
Chiefs 62 (Bristol A, Quins H) 72 (4th-9th)
Sale 61 (Wasps A, Bristol H) 71 (4th-9th)
Irish 61 (Bath A) 66 (6th-9th)
Wasps 60 (Sale H, Tigers A) 70 (4th-9th)
Bristol 43 (Exeter H, Sale A) 53 (10th/11th)
Falcons 33 (Tigers H, Saints A) 43 (10th-13th)
Wuss 30 (Bath H) 35 (11th-13th)
Bath 29 (Irish H, Wuss A) 39 (11th-13th)
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Personally I think the top 4 will end up as it currently stands
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Rugbygramps wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 5:54 pm Personally I think the top 4 will end up as it currently stands
I think that's quite likely, though Glaws get even a couple of bonus points vs Quins and it's a whole different pressure situation if Saints don't pick up anything vs Sarries.

A two week gap for some clubs may leave them rusty, others may gain from it, others still in Europe, either staying match sharp or getting injuries. Form guide goes out of the window a bit for the last two games IMO
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TigerFeetSteve wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 6:02 pm
Rugbygramps wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 5:54 pm Personally I think the top 4 will end up as it currently stands
I think that's quite likely, though Glaws get even a couple of bonus points vs Quins and it's a whole different pressure situation if Saints don't pick up anything vs Sarries.

A two week gap for some clubs may leave them rusty, others may gain from it, others still in Europe, either staying match sharp or getting injuries. Form guide goes out of the window a bit for the last two games IMO
Oh you’re right even more so if it was a relegation season. I think you may have done Irish out of a point with their possible total
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Rugbygramps wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 6:06 pm
TigerFeetSteve wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 6:02 pm
Rugbygramps wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 5:54 pm Personally I think the top 4 will end up as it currently stands
I think that's quite likely, though Glaws get even a couple of bonus points vs Quins and it's a whole different pressure situation if Saints don't pick up anything vs Sarries.

A two week gap for some clubs may leave them rusty, others may gain from it, others still in Europe, either staying match sharp or getting injuries. Form guide goes out of the window a bit for the last two games IMO
Oh you’re right even more so if it was a relegation season. I think you may have done Irish out of a point with their possible total
Well spotted, have fixed it.
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Falcons 10th to 14th? I thought we only had 13 teams?
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Big Dai wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 7:24 pm Falcons 10th to 14th? I thought we only had 13 teams?
Fat fingers on my phone, apologies
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TigerFeetSteve wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 5:53 pm Have put together a list of current points, remaining fixtures, max points (postions they can finish)

Tigers 86 (Falcons A, Wasps H) 96 (1st/2nd)
Sarries 82 (Saints H, Glaws A) 92 (1st-3rd)
Quins 74 (Glaws H, Exeter A) 84 (2nd-5th)
Saints 68 (Sarries A, Falcons H) 78 (3rd-7th)
Glaws 67 (Quins A, Sarries H) 77 (3rd-7th)
Chiefs 62 (Bristol A, Quins H) 72 (4th-9th)
Sale 61 (Wasps A, Bristol H) 71 (4th-9th)
Irish 61 (Bath A) 66 (6th-9th)
Wasps 60 (Sale H, Tigers A) 70 (4th-9th)
Bristol 43 (Exeter H, Sale A) 53 (10th/11th)
Falcons 33 (Tigers H, Saints A) 43 (10th-13th)
Wuss 30 (Bath H) 35 (11th-13th)
Bath 29 (Irish H, Wuss A) 39 (11th-13th)
Thanks for crunching the numbers TFS, much appreciated.

Personally I can see both us and Sarries winning the remaining 2 fixtures and keeping top 2 the same. Quinn’s should beat Glos at the Stoop but face a tough away game to Exeter which might determine 3rd and 4th. Glos have the hardest run in for sure. Exeter should pick up the win away to Bristol so it might be all to play for for 3rd and 4th come the final weekend when Exeter travel to Quins. For me the top 4 stays as it is but it might and probably will come down to the final fixture.
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TigerFeetSteve wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 8:17 pm
Big Dai wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 7:24 pm Falcons 10th to 14th? I thought we only had 13 teams?
Fat fingers on my phone, apologies
Got the same problem mate......prop's sausages are not created for modern tech! 😁😁.........or is that the other way around?
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Interesting read ..those fighting outside the top 4 to get in will add some spark to some of those fixtures
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OakhamTiger32 wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 8:34 pm
TigerFeetSteve wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 5:53 pm Have put together a list of current points, remaining fixtures, max points (postions they can finish)

Tigers 86 (Falcons A, Wasps H) 96 (1st/2nd)
Sarries 82 (Saints H, Glaws A) 92 (1st-3rd)
Quins 74 (Glaws H, Exeter A) 84 (2nd-5th)
Saints 68 (Sarries A, Falcons H) 78 (3rd-7th)
Glaws 67 (Quins A, Sarries H) 77 (3rd-7th)
Chiefs 62 (Bristol A, Quins H) 72 (4th-9th)
Sale 61 (Wasps A, Bristol H) 71 (4th-9th)
Irish 61 (Bath A) 66 (6th-9th)
Wasps 60 (Sale H, Tigers A) 70 (4th-9th)
Bristol 43 (Exeter H, Sale A) 53 (10th/11th)
Falcons 33 (Tigers H, Saints A) 43 (10th-13th)
Wuss 30 (Bath H) 35 (11th-13th)
Bath 29 (Irish H, Wuss A) 39 (11th-13th)
Thanks for crunching the numbers TFS, much appreciated.

Personally I can see both us and Sarries winning the remaining 2 fixtures and keeping top 2 the same. Quinn’s should beat Glos at the Stoop but face a tough away game to Exeter which might determine 3rd and 4th. Glos have the hardest run in for sure. Exeter should pick up the win away to Bristol so it might be all to play for for 3rd and 4th come the final weekend when Exeter travel to Quins. For me the top 4 stays as it is but it might and probably will come down to the final fixture.
Just an add on Oakham, Quins v Gloucester takes place at Twickenham which can have a positive effect on the visitors.
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Rugbygramps wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 8:33 am
OakhamTiger32 wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 8:34 pm
TigerFeetSteve wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 5:53 pm Have put together a list of current points, remaining fixtures, max points (postions they can finish)

Tigers 86 (Falcons A, Wasps H) 96 (1st/2nd)
Sarries 82 (Saints H, Glaws A) 92 (1st-3rd)
Quins 74 (Glaws H, Exeter A) 84 (2nd-5th)
Saints 68 (Sarries A, Falcons H) 78 (3rd-7th)
Glaws 67 (Quins A, Sarries H) 77 (3rd-7th)
Chiefs 62 (Bristol A, Quins H) 72 (4th-9th)
Sale 61 (Wasps A, Bristol H) 71 (4th-9th)
Irish 61 (Bath A) 66 (6th-9th)
Wasps 60 (Sale H, Tigers A) 70 (4th-9th)
Bristol 43 (Exeter H, Sale A) 53 (10th/11th)
Falcons 33 (Tigers H, Saints A) 43 (10th-13th)
Wuss 30 (Bath H) 35 (11th-13th)
Bath 29 (Irish H, Wuss A) 39 (11th-13th)
Thanks for crunching the numbers TFS, much appreciated.

Personally I can see both us and Sarries winning the remaining 2 fixtures and keeping top 2 the same. Quinn’s should beat Glos at the Stoop but face a tough away game to Exeter which might determine 3rd and 4th. Glos have the hardest run in for sure. Exeter should pick up the win away to Bristol so it might be all to play for for 3rd and 4th come the final weekend when Exeter travel to Quins. For me the top 4 stays as it is but it might and probably will come down to the final fixture.
Just an add on Oakham, Quins v Gloucester takes place at Twickenham which can have a positive effect on the visitors.
Hadn’t spotted that, thanks.. always makes the game more open so that should be a cracking match
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Quins having fixtures at Twickenham may be good for their cash flow and the game generally but this could be a really motivator for Gloucester. Team talk of “if you ever want to get back in this dressing room in a final this is the moment to step it up…… Not quite the same as taking them on a stadium tour or saying look at that stadium next door. Is it Gloucesters year? It would be good for them to be loosing finalists to Tigers 😁
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Looking at the last two w/e's fixtures there is still plenty up for grabs.
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Updated this now, remaining fixtures, max points (postions they can finish)

Tigers 90 (Wasps H) 95 (1st/2nd)
Sarries 87 (Glaws A) 92 (1st/2nd)
Quins 79 (Exeter A) 84 (3rd)
Saints 70 (Falcons H) 75 (4th/5th)
Glaws 68 (Sarries H) 73 (4th-7th)
Sale 65 (Bristol H) 70 (5th-8th)
Chiefs 64 (Quins H) 69 (5th-8th)
Irish 63 (8th/9th)
Wasps 60 (Tigers A) 65 (6th-9th)
Bristol 48 (Sale A) 53 (10th)
Falcons 33 (Saints A) 38 (11th-13th)
Bath 33 (Wuss A) 38 (11th-13th)
Wuss 30 (Bath H) 35 (11th-13th)

Based on this only 5 teams have anything to play for in a fortnight:
Us playing for top spot (need 2 points)
Sarries playing for top spot (need 4 more than us)
Saints playing for last playoff spot (win secures it but may be ok already)
Glaws playing for last playoff spot (need a win and hope Newcastle win)
Wasps playing for last Champions Cup spot (need to win or draw with TBP)
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