Tigers v Leinster (H) - Saturday 07th May 2022 - 5-30pm KO
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Re: Tigers v Leinster (H) - Saturday 07th May 2022 - 5-30pm KO
Having enjoyed the company of many Leinster fans in Dublin and again on Saturday I’ve found them to be a great set of fans showing great integrity and fairness.
Looking back at the game having watched from the Mattioli Woods stand my summary would be:
1) Leinster got off to a fast start, making no mistakes, their back row played incredibly well arriving together, supporting each other in attack and their rush defence was superbly efficient.
At 10-0 down Ford was tackled late: his kick landed about 25 -30 metres out yet somehow we gave a penalty away resulting in a try then being scored by Leinster.
In the Premiership the TMO would have pointed out the late tackle!
2) After 20 minutes things began to change: we could and should have got on the scoreboard with at least two very kickable penalties but kicked to touch and messed things up. Leinster took their penalties to extend the lead.
3) After Ashton scored there was only one team desperately defending: more kickable penalties not taken then strangely, the two backs most likely to create/ score tries were replaced along with our main scavenger, Reffell!
4) Leinster seemed to take their foot off the pedal but maybe Tigers had found their true form though, as happened at Wasps, Sale, Sarries and at the end v Quins,
we didn’t have the running lines to break the defensive wall.
5) finally, very well done Leinster, I imagine “the fast start” was exactly what they had wanted to do and boy, you executed it brilliantly.
I was proud of my Tigers and all of us who made a hell of a lot of noise. I left my seat with a few minutes to go to stand for the last rites: the noise from both sets of fans was immense.
Looking back at the game having watched from the Mattioli Woods stand my summary would be:
1) Leinster got off to a fast start, making no mistakes, their back row played incredibly well arriving together, supporting each other in attack and their rush defence was superbly efficient.
At 10-0 down Ford was tackled late: his kick landed about 25 -30 metres out yet somehow we gave a penalty away resulting in a try then being scored by Leinster.
In the Premiership the TMO would have pointed out the late tackle!
2) After 20 minutes things began to change: we could and should have got on the scoreboard with at least two very kickable penalties but kicked to touch and messed things up. Leinster took their penalties to extend the lead.
3) After Ashton scored there was only one team desperately defending: more kickable penalties not taken then strangely, the two backs most likely to create/ score tries were replaced along with our main scavenger, Reffell!
4) Leinster seemed to take their foot off the pedal but maybe Tigers had found their true form though, as happened at Wasps, Sale, Sarries and at the end v Quins,
we didn’t have the running lines to break the defensive wall.
5) finally, very well done Leinster, I imagine “the fast start” was exactly what they had wanted to do and boy, you executed it brilliantly.
I was proud of my Tigers and all of us who made a hell of a lot of noise. I left my seat with a few minutes to go to stand for the last rites: the noise from both sets of fans was immense.
Re: Tigers v Leinster (H) - Saturday 07th May 2022 - 5-30pm KO
Agree with all of the above, Ian.
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Re: Tigers v Leinster (H) - Saturday 07th May 2022 - 5-30pm KO
Has anyone thought about the possiblity that the teams performance against Leinster may have affected by the build up & associated passion surrounding the Bristol Bears game & Tom Youngs emotional address to the team in the dressing prior to the full on game won by considerable margin.
Its not unknown for a team to put a huge effort into a game one week then not be able to follow it up the next.
eg England vs. NZ world cup semi final followed by England vs. SA in the final.
Just a thought
Its not unknown for a team to put a huge effort into a game one week then not be able to follow it up the next.
eg England vs. NZ world cup semi final followed by England vs. SA in the final.
Just a thought
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Re: Tigers v Leinster (H) - Saturday 07th May 2022 - 5-30pm KO
Good summary Ian
I watched the game dispassionately (and with no sound!) for the first time after reading the reports and this thread last night.
After that start it was a fairly even game, a bit short on quality and fluidity from both sides in honesty. You felt that if we could have got closer on the scoreboard and a bit of a head of steam we could have really turned it around. But whether it was a refs call, bad decision making or bounce of the ball it just fizzled away.
That is sport and this team can come again, still plenty of fight and still some younger guys learning.
Got to say I am desperate to get to the Prem Final again and to win it would feel a bit like winning it for the first time.
I watched the game dispassionately (and with no sound!) for the first time after reading the reports and this thread last night.
After that start it was a fairly even game, a bit short on quality and fluidity from both sides in honesty. You felt that if we could have got closer on the scoreboard and a bit of a head of steam we could have really turned it around. But whether it was a refs call, bad decision making or bounce of the ball it just fizzled away.
That is sport and this team can come again, still plenty of fight and still some younger guys learning.
Got to say I am desperate to get to the Prem Final again and to win it would feel a bit like winning it for the first time.
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Re: Tigers v Leinster (H) - Saturday 07th May 2022 - 5-30pm KO
Leinster wage apparently 12-14 million euros according to Jackman
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Re: Tigers v Leinster (H) - Saturday 07th May 2022 - 5-30pm KO
And add the payments from the IRFU for a lot of the squad on top of thatRagingBull wrote: ↑Sun May 22, 2022 9:41 am Leinster wage apparently 12-14 million euros according to Jackman
Re: Tigers v Leinster (H) - Saturday 07th May 2022 - 5-30pm KO
No no no, that can't be right. All their International stars are on 90kRagingBull wrote: ↑Sun May 22, 2022 9:41 am Leinster wage apparently 12-14 million euros according to Jackman
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Re: Tigers v Leinster (H) - Saturday 07th May 2022 - 5-30pm KO
Jackman is talking through his hat.Tiglon wrote: ↑Sun May 22, 2022 10:45 amNo no no, that can't be right. All their International stars are on 90kRagingBull wrote: ↑Sun May 22, 2022 9:41 am Leinster wage apparently 12-14 million euros according to Jackman
Re: Tigers v Leinster (H) - Saturday 07th May 2022 - 5-30pm KO
He might be, but his thoughts are still more likely to be reliable than those of random man on internet.TheLeinsterlad wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 12:22 pmJackman is talking through his hat.Tiglon wrote: ↑Sun May 22, 2022 10:45 amNo no no, that can't be right. All their International stars are on 90kRagingBull wrote: ↑Sun May 22, 2022 9:41 am Leinster wage apparently 12-14 million euros according to Jackman
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Re: Tigers v Leinster (H) - Saturday 07th May 2022 - 5-30pm KO
Watched highlights of the Leinster v Munster game over the weekend, there were hardly any, if any, of their European cup side playing
Re: Tigers v Leinster (H) - Saturday 07th May 2022 - 5-30pm KO
I have always wondered how much the Pro 14 title actually means to those taking part. Clearly English clubs see a great deal of importance in winning the league but is it the same for the pro 14 clubs or is it taken as a competition to be used to keep players fit and in form ofr Europe? Am I paying the league a massive diservice? As it is not somthing I watch often, I really do not know.Rugbygramps wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 12:42 pm Watched highlights of the Leinster v Munster game over the weekend, there were hardly any, if any, of their European cup side playing
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Re: Tigers v Leinster (H) - Saturday 07th May 2022 - 5-30pm KO
I don’t think it’s any secret that the priority’s in Ireland, are Test matches, European games, Pro 14. In saying that Irish sides seem to win it more often than notGB72 wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 12:48 pmI have always wondered how much the Pro 14 title actually means to those taking part. Clearly English clubs see a great deal of importance in winning the league but is it the same for the pro 14 clubs or is it taken as a competition to be used to keep players fit and in form ofr Europe? Am I paying the league a massive diservice? As it is not somthing I watch often, I really do not know.Rugbygramps wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 12:42 pm Watched highlights of the Leinster v Munster game over the weekend, there were hardly any, if any, of their European cup side playing
Re: Tigers v Leinster (H) - Saturday 07th May 2022 - 5-30pm KO
The league is awful for the most part,easily the worse out of the big 4 (GP,Top14,URC,Super Rugby). It’s just a vehicle for European and International rugby tbh.GB72 wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 12:48 pmI have always wondered how much the Pro 14 title actually means to those taking part. Clearly English clubs see a great deal of importance in winning the league but is it the same for the pro 14 clubs or is it taken as a competition to be used to keep players fit and in form ofr Europe? Am I paying the league a massive diservice? As it is not somthing I watch often, I really do not know.Rugbygramps wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 12:42 pm Watched highlights of the Leinster v Munster game over the weekend, there were hardly any, if any, of their European cup side playing
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Re: Tigers v Leinster (H) - Saturday 07th May 2022 - 5-30pm KO
Have you watched the URC regularly? Leinster v Munster, 32k attendance, better game of rugby than almost every Premiership rugby borefest this year. Just because Leinster had no starters from the Semi v Toulouse, the team they put out would easily finish in the playoff places in the Premiership. There's a false narrative abounding blown out of all proportion by Sky and then BT how the Premiership is such a super league - it just isn't. Your comment is beyond arrogant, and ill informed. GP teams are going to get a nice little extra shock next year when the Stormers, Bulls, and Sharks come to town in the HC. Have a look in the mirror; if Connacht had a scrum they would have won in Welford road, and blew the return in Galway losing by a solitary point. Connacht have finished 11th of 16 in the URC.Scott1 wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 1:21 pmThe league is awful for the most part,easily the worse out of the big 4 (GP,Top14,URC,Super Rugby). It’s just a vehicle for European and International rugby tbh.GB72 wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 12:48 pmI have always wondered how much the Pro 14 title actually means to those taking part. Clearly English clubs see a great deal of importance in winning the league but is it the same for the pro 14 clubs or is it taken as a competition to be used to keep players fit and in form ofr Europe? Am I paying the league a massive diservice? As it is not somthing I watch often, I really do not know.Rugbygramps wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 12:42 pm Watched highlights of the Leinster v Munster game over the weekend, there were hardly any, if any, of their European cup side playing
Re: Tigers v Leinster (H) - Saturday 07th May 2022 - 5-30pm KO
Speaking about arrogance suggest that you read your own post backBluemagoo wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 11:40 pmHave you watched the URC regularly? Leinster v Munster, 32k attendance, better game of rugby than almost every Premiership rugby borefest this year. Just because Leinster had no starters from the Semi v Toulouse, the team they put out would easily finish in the playoff places in the Premiership. There's a false narrative abounding blown out of all proportion by Sky and then BT how the Premiership is such a super league - it just isn't. Your comment is beyond arrogant, and ill informed. GP teams are going to get a nice little extra shock next year when the Stormers, Bulls, and Sharks come to town in the HC. Have a look in the mirror; if Connacht had a scrum they would have won in Welford road, and blew the return in Galway losing by a solitary point. Connacht have finished 11th of 16 in the URC.Scott1 wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 1:21 pmThe league is awful for the most part,easily the worse out of the big 4 (GP,Top14,URC,Super Rugby). It’s just a vehicle for European and International rugby tbh.GB72 wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 12:48 pm
I have always wondered how much the Pro 14 title actually means to those taking part. Clearly English clubs see a great deal of importance in winning the league but is it the same for the pro 14 clubs or is it taken as a competition to be used to keep players fit and in form ofr Europe? Am I paying the league a massive diservice? As it is not somthing I watch often, I really do not know.
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