Gibson-Park

[Pmvl]

I've not seen the incident but have read about it on here, below is the decision from epcrugby panel


Jamison Gibson-Park citing dismissed

A citing complaint against the Leinster Rugby replacement scrum half, Jamison Gibson-Park, arising from his club’s Heineken Champions Cup, Round of 16 1st leg match against Connacht Rugby at The Sportsground has been dismissed following an independent Disciplinary Hearing by video conference.

Gibson-Park was cited by the match Citing Commissioner, Maurizio Vancini (Italy), for allegedly tackling the Connacht Rugby scrum half, Kieran Marmion, in a dangerous manner in the 56th minute of the match in contravention of Law 9.13.

Law 9.13 A player must not tackle an opponent dangerously
Under World Rugby’s Sanctions for Foul Play, Law 9.13 relating to dangerous tackling carries the following sanction entry points – Low End: 2 weeks; Mid-range: 6 weeks; Top end: 10 to 52 weeks.

The independent Disciplinary Committee comprising Philippe Cavalieros (France), chair, Yannick Jauzion (France) and Mitchell Read (England), considered video imagery of the incident and heard submissions from Gibson-Park, who did not accept that his act of foul play warranted a red card, from the player’s legal representative, Derek Hegarty, from the Leinster Rugby Head of Rugby Operations, Guy Easterby, and from the EPCR Disciplinary Officer, Liam McTiernan.

While the committee determined that Gibson-Park had committed an act of foul play, it found that his action involved a low degree of force which did not warrant a red card. The citing complaint was therefore dismissed and Gibson-Park is free to play.

EPCR have the right to appeal the decision.

[Rugbygramps]

Wow I really don’t see how they have come to that conclusion. Let’s hope Guy Porter gets the same degree of leniency

[DingDong]

A sensible and logical decision, Marmion dropped height at last second while G-P targeted the ball/chest with a passive tackle. Hate to see a red card for that mitigation. I hope the disciplinary committee see sense for Porter as he wasn't making a tackle but was (successfully) cutting out the pass, still a bit reckless but also collateral.

[loretta]

Sorry. Couldn’t agree less.

What gets me is the similarity between this incident and Curtis Rona on Weise. Both defenders (defendants might be better) moving at slow speed, both second tacklers with limited access to the ball carrier, both raise their shoulders making contact with a running players face, but the one who breaks a nose gets off while the other sees red, and presumably got a ban, though I haven’t seen details.

Ridiculous.

[Rugbygramps]

It’s the force issue that may go against Porter. No matter how different posters feel that force was generated, it was a high force collision

[Wayne Richardson Fan Club]

It would appear the Committee felt it worthy of a Yellow though.

Yannick Jauzion on the panel no less.

[wigworth]

Seems the outcome of these hearing are a complete coin flip, I must say the low force comments ring a bit hollow when the other chap broke his nose.

Also I would not be holding my breath over Potter having his red reduced down to a yellow or overturned, best outcome would be a small ban and hope to get it reduced down further.

[Tigerbeat]

Is this the same panel that are hearing Porters disciplinary? It will also depend upon whether Guy accepts or challenges the charge.

[Rugbygramps]

Is this the same panel that are hearing Porters disciplinary? It will also depend upon whether Guy accepts or challenges the charge.

IMO they would be foolish to challenge the card, I think a guilty pleas and accept the finding with hopefully a reduced sentence is the best bet

[kpj tiger]

One of my biggest bugbears is the "low force" thing as its all relative, we've seen smaller guys (Faf multiple times, Aled Davies vs Ford) get away with stuff previously because they simply don't generate the same amount of force as a bigger player, you either want to remove head contact or not IMO

[Pmvl]

Potters committee is, Roger Morris (Wales), chair, David Humphreys (Ireland) and Frank Hadden (Scotland), have been appointed as the independent Disciplinary Committee for the hearing which will take place by video conference this evening (Wednesday, 13 April).
Gibson_Park the independent Disciplinary Committee comprising Philippe Cavalieros (France), chair, Yannick Jauzion (France) and Mitchell Read (England).
Whoknows how these people vary in their outlook

[Crofty]

Well that's changed my mind, Porter's red card was absolutely ridiculous and sir shouldn't get the whistle again, could have unfairly cost us the match!

[MrG2]

Is Mitchell Read the ex Tigers lad

[Offside]

Rona looked to step forward and up swinging his shoulder. Gibson-Park seemed to step sideways and also move his shoulder in. Slightly more passive but still moving shoulder into head. It seems a big difference in penalty. Porter is more accidental but had the most impact on the other player. If Lee did move his line but Porter is in front of the ball then it is difficult to predict the interpretation. A 20 min red card substitution for head contact and full red only for the old style intentional malice may be the best approach to even up the outcome. 10mins vs 4weeks+ seems too big a difference to me.

[TigerXV]

Is this the same panel that are hearing Porters disciplinary? It will also depend upon whether Guy accepts or challenges the charge.

i understand the rules have changed re pleading not guilty at hearings negatively effecting the outcome penalty. It doesn't (or shouldn't) make any difference now to the result so a not guilty plea allows for proper debate.