Weekend Games - 01st to 03rd April 2022

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Re: Weekend Games - 01st to 03rd April 2022

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Biggar bounced up off the ball/Radrada's forearm and hit him in the neck/chin with his shoulder. Mitigation started low(ish) and rode up. Should have been a yellow at least. Biggar went into the tackle more than upright. Looked like he jumped up to make the tackle. Never in a position to make a low tackle. If it was a Tigers player he would have got a red. (Yes Im cynical)
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Re: Weekend Games - 01st to 03rd April 2022

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sam16111986 wrote: Sat Apr 02, 2022 10:08 pm
Scott1 wrote: Sat Apr 02, 2022 10:00 pm
TigerFeetSteve wrote: Sat Apr 02, 2022 9:42 pm Not seen it but the stills I've seen of it show shoulder hitting the head...
Some have said he bounced high off the ball,be interesting to see it
Biggar was never in a position to make a legal tackle, pretty much jumps into it. He was a very lucky boy and his reaction afterwards showed he knew it. Seen tackles like that go red no one would have said a thing if that was where Dickson went with it. Stunned it wasn't even a yellow.
Was it looked at? And if so Dickson and TMO blew it?
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Scott1 wrote: Sat Apr 02, 2022 10:12 pm
sam16111986 wrote: Sat Apr 02, 2022 10:08 pm
Scott1 wrote: Sat Apr 02, 2022 10:00 pm

Some have said he bounced high off the ball,be interesting to see it
Biggar was never in a position to make a legal tackle, pretty much jumps into it. He was a very lucky boy and his reaction afterwards showed he knew it. Seen tackles like that go red no one would have said a thing if that was where Dickson went with it. Stunned it wasn't even a yellow.
Was it looked at? And if so Dickson and TMO blew it?
Dickson did his best to dismiss a similar incident in the second half for Bristol, TMO insisted. I'm not sure the TMO was particularly happy with the leniency shown but Dickson seemed to want to view them lightly.

Only gave a penalty for the Biggar one which was very lucky, he did glance off the ball but had it been the other way round and Radrada hitting Biggar there's no way it wouldn't be a card as evidenced by the second half yellow card for Radrada hitting Biggar with no arms (but otherwise legal, well in terms of height it was not close to being high). Maybe of Radrada had stayed down and grabbed his head, none of us like that but that's the way it's going if refs like Dickson keep making lenient calls.
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Re: Weekend Games - 01st to 03rd April 2022

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Scott1 wrote: Sat Apr 02, 2022 10:12 pm
sam16111986 wrote: Sat Apr 02, 2022 10:08 pm
Scott1 wrote: Sat Apr 02, 2022 10:00 pm

Some have said he bounced high off the ball,be interesting to see it
Biggar was never in a position to make a legal tackle, pretty much jumps into it. He was a very lucky boy and his reaction afterwards showed he knew it. Seen tackles like that go red no one would have said a thing if that was where Dickson went with it. Stunned it wasn't even a yellow.
Was it looked at? And if so Dickson and TMO blew it?
It was looked at.
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Biggar didn’t have the ball when Radrada tackled him and was never in possession of it in that move. No arms and off the ball in the 22 is very likely to be a card.

I do think the targeting of the ball and riding up should not be a mitigation. Play takes the risk with another players head. If the risk does not come off then the players should get a yellow.
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Re: Weekend Games - 01st to 03rd April 2022

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Biggar on Randrana mitigation was that he bounced off the ball and they were both upright, agree with others should have been a yellow
Randrana on Biggar, much as he is up there with Farrell on the annoying scale, was 10 yards behind the play and Randrana just ran into him clear yellow
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Good to see Sir Carley binning both hookers for mucking about at scrum time despite previous warnings. Needs to be done more
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Worcester very much in the Bristol mode defensively against Newcastle, tackling optional
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Anyone have George Mcguigan down as top try scorer pre season ??
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Quins try just before half time. Does the ball not have to go 5m anymore?
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Big Dai wrote: Sun Apr 03, 2022 3:51 pm Quins try just before half time. Does the ball not have to go 5m anymore?
We could do with a pinned post on here of all the ignored laws, would stretch to several pages.... :smt013
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Serious question: We have Aled, but can we live with Quin's pace when they are like this?
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Old Hob wrote: Sun Apr 03, 2022 3:55 pm Serious question: We have Aled, but can we live with Quin's pace when they are like this?
I'm not watching the game, but can they generate so much pace when their forwards are on the back foot and they are pinned in their own half? Tigers and Sarries both very capable of cutting them off at source IMO.
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Tiglon wrote: Sun Apr 03, 2022 4:02 pm
Old Hob wrote: Sun Apr 03, 2022 3:55 pm Serious question: We have Aled, but can we live with Quin's pace when they are like this?
I'm not watching the game, but can they generate so much pace when their forwards are on the back foot and they are pinned in their own half? Tigers and Sarries both very capable of cutting them off at source IMO.
This ,in the game Ford schooled Smith our defence just suffocated them and forced them to play from deep and take risks.
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Old Hob wrote: Sun Apr 03, 2022 3:55 pm Serious question: We have Aled, but can we live with Quin's pace when they are like this?
They appear to be giving the Exiles a bit of a lesson so far...
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Re: Weekend Games - 01st to 03rd April 2022

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And they seem to have discovered a defence.
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