Clermont (Away) - Sunday 10th April 2022

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Re: Clermont (Away) - Sunday 10th April 2022

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markharbtiger wrote: Mon Apr 11, 2022 7:50 am Have not seen the game as I’m away at the moment. I’m hoping it will still be available to stream when I get back?
It's available on BT Sport by whichever means you usually access it, if of course you do access it.
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Re: Clermont (Away) - Sunday 10th April 2022

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I have just arisen from my sleep downstairs after too much amber liquid - didn't make my bed - too old by far for this but what a match and for me Reffell was immense - don't know his stats but we need to keep him if at all possible. The ref I thought had a good game on the whole. He dealt with the Porter incident calmly and went through the questions in law he has to ask and gave his opinion. Whilst we can all have our opinions, he answered the questions and came to the answer which was right for him. I hoped for a yellow but can see why he had a different opinion to me. My main disagreement was he kept referring to "clear line of sight" when he wasn't looking at the player (maybe he should have been) but was clearly looking at the ball. Lets hope for a 4 week reduced to 2.
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Re: Clermont (Away) - Sunday 10th April 2022

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trendylfj wrote: Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:15 am I have just arisen from my sleep downstairs after too much amber liquid - didn't make my bed - too old by far for this but what a match and for me Reffell was immense - don't know his stats but we need to keep him if at all possible. The ref I thought had a good game on the whole. He dealt with the Porter incident calmly and went through the questions in law he has to ask and gave his opinion. Whilst we can all have our opinions, he answered the questions and came to the answer which was right for him. I hoped for a yellow but can see why he had a different opinion to me. My main disagreement was he kept referring to "clear line of sight" when he wasn't looking at the player (maybe he should have been) but was clearly looking at the ball. Lets hope for a 4 week reduced to 2.
Tremendous sensible post
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Re: Clermont (Away) - Sunday 10th April 2022

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A wonderful game of rugby and a well deserved win for Tigers who showed some flare in attack and much fortitude in defence.

For me the Porter red card was never a red. Both player were moving forward at the point of collision and both were looking at the ball rather than at one another. Both were upright as there was no reason to be otherwise and the clash of heads was completely accidental In other words it was a 'rugby incident'.

The foul play comes from the contention that the Porter run was reckless but why? Is the ref suggesting that he deliberately ran into the other player or is he suggesting that running around a rugby field is in itself a reckless activity?

Nobody want to see head contact but with all the best of intentions it is going to happen from time to time. It doesn't always have to have blame attached.
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Re: Clermont (Away) - Sunday 10th April 2022

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Great away wins in Europe include of course the 2001 Final, Munster at Thomond Park, Perpignan, Montpellier and now Clermont, we have won there before but they then were not the team they became and the crowd was not as passionate either. This was a magnificent victory I am only sorry that I was not there to enjoy it, I have been at all previous big occasions watching on TV is just not the same.
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Re: Clermont (Away) - Sunday 10th April 2022

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Noggs wrote: Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:33 am A wonderful game of rugby and a well deserved win for Tigers who showed some flare in attack and much fortitude in defence.

For me the Porter red card was never a red. Both player were moving forward at the point of collision and both were looking at the ball rather than at one another. Both were upright as there was no reason to be otherwise and the clash of heads was completely accidental In other words it was a 'rugby incident'.

The foul play comes from the contention that the Porter run was reckless but why? Is the ref suggesting that he deliberately ran into the other player or is he suggesting that running around a rugby field is in itself a reckless activity?

Nobody want to see head contact but with all the best of intentions it is going to happen from time to time. It doesn't always have to have blame attached.
Fantastic post!
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Re: Clermont (Away) - Sunday 10th April 2022

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Scott1 wrote: Mon Apr 11, 2022 10:39 am
Noggs wrote: Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:33 am A wonderful game of rugby and a well deserved win for Tigers who showed some flare in attack and much fortitude in defence.

For me the Porter red card was never a red. Both player were moving forward at the point of collision and both were looking at the ball rather than at one another. Both were upright as there was no reason to be otherwise and the clash of heads was completely accidental In other words it was a 'rugby incident'.

The foul play comes from the contention that the Porter run was reckless but why? Is the ref suggesting that he deliberately ran into the other player or is he suggesting that running around a rugby field is in itself a reckless activity?

Nobody want to see head contact but with all the best of intentions it is going to happen from time to time. It doesn't always have to have blame attached.
Fantastic post!
Yes i agree with all of that, regarding the performance and the red card. Thanks Noggs.
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Soggypitch wrote: Mon Apr 11, 2022 12:37 pm
Scott1 wrote: Mon Apr 11, 2022 10:39 am
Noggs wrote: Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:33 am A wonderful game of rugby and a well deserved win for Tigers who showed some flare in attack and much fortitude in defence.

For me the Porter red card was never a red. Both player were moving forward at the point of collision and both were looking at the ball rather than at one another. Both were upright as there was no reason to be otherwise and the clash of heads was completely accidental In other words it was a 'rugby incident'.

The foul play comes from the contention that the Porter run was reckless but why? Is the ref suggesting that he deliberately ran into the other player or is he suggesting that running around a rugby field is in itself a reckless activity?

Nobody want to see head contact but with all the best of intentions it is going to happen from time to time. It doesn't always have to have blame attached.
Fantastic post!
Yes i agree with all of that, regarding the performance and the red card. Thanks Noggs.
I think you are spot-on. It's knock for knock, exchange details l, clear the road and get on with it.
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Re: Clermont (Away) - Sunday 10th April 2022

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trendylfj wrote: Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:15 am Lets hope for a 4 week reduced to 2.
I’m hoping that they will say the red card was sufficient as there was no intent, no foul play and it was clearly accidental. I think 2 weeks would be very harsh on the lad. By the letter of the law I can see how a red card was given however I’m hoping that will be deemed enough.
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Re: Clermont (Away) - Sunday 10th April 2022

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OakhamTiger32 wrote: Mon Apr 11, 2022 2:45 pm
trendylfj wrote: Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:15 am Lets hope for a 4 week reduced to 2.
I’m hoping that they will say the red card was sufficient as there was no intent, no foul play and it was clearly accidental. I think 2 weeks would be very harsh on the lad
I would hope 2 weeks would be the absolute maximum
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Re: Clermont (Away) - Sunday 10th April 2022

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OakhamTiger32 wrote: Mon Apr 11, 2022 2:45 pm
trendylfj wrote: Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:15 am Lets hope for a 4 week reduced to 2.
I’m hoping that they will say the red card was sufficient as there was no intent, no foul play and it was clearly accidental. I think 2 weeks would be very harsh on the lad. By the letter of the law I can see how a red card was given however I’m hoping that will be deemed enough.
This would be absolutely the right action, I wont hold my breath though!
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Re: Clermont (Away) - Sunday 10th April 2022

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If the ref thinks that Porter was reckless he clearly never watched Lewis Moody play.

Everyone is entitled to their view of course, mine is that it was never a red card.
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Re: Clermont (Away) - Sunday 10th April 2022

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What a game
The place was a cauldron but the Tigers were supreme!
Outstanding performances all round and great support !
Glad to be home
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Re: Clermont (Away) - Sunday 10th April 2022

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old one eye wrote: Mon Apr 11, 2022 3:31 pm If the ref thinks that Porter was reckless he clearly never watched Lewis Moody play.

Everyone is entitled to their view of course, mine is that it was never a red card.
Different time different game. How many red cards would the likes of Moody or Johnson get in todays game if they didn’t moderate their behaviour
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Re: Clermont (Away) - Sunday 10th April 2022

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Big Dai wrote: Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:05 pm
westwinds31 wrote: Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:01 pm
Scott1 wrote: Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:22 pm Really struggling to think of a better European away win,anyone please help?
Munster away was monumental ! 2007.
Paris?
Have we already forgotten last December’s win in Bordeaux, top in the French league & our side consisting of seemingly callow youths?
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