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Re: Genge leaving

Post by Tiglon » Fri Dec 17, 2021 8:50 am

Surprised to see him apologising, he usually just tells people where to go when they don't like the way he does things.

One of the reasons we loved him was that he was so open about not caring what we thought of him, and being quite open that he doesn't like rugby fans or the rugby establishment. To him, we're all just posh idiots who look down on him because of his background. He loves his self-created working class hero persona, walking around in slippers to sign a 6 figure salary contract to prove he's just an ordinary bloke. We know he has zero loyalty to anyone but himself, and maybe his speedy scaffolder mates. For me loyalty doesn't mean staying in the same place forever, it means doing things respectfully when you decide to leave - was that really too hard to manage?

I doubt he's changed that mindset now, he still thinks we're all sausages, so his apology is just him finally listening to the PR guys and pretending he gives a... to protect his sponsorship deals.

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Re: Genge leaving

Post by chewbacca » Fri Dec 17, 2021 9:01 am

Whatever the reasons for two high profile players leaving we have our management and I trust them to do what's best for the club whatever that means for the individual. That said the best interest of the club is not going to be served by acting in haste or anger.
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Re: Genge leaving

Post by LongsladeTiger » Fri Dec 17, 2021 9:17 am

Posting this video tells you a lot about the real person doesn't it . As a rugby player no question he is international class ,but in respect of captainacy material way short of the mark . If happened in industry and commerce it would be deemed Gross Misconduct, Summary Dismissal ,immediate effect and no notice pay or severance . One of the few things SB has got wrong but he needs to strip him of captaincy immediately and dismiss him without pay . I'm sure Andrea would support that move .

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Re: Genge leaving

Post by Yorkietiger » Fri Dec 17, 2021 9:37 am

Disgusting behaviour by both Lam (not surprised here after his swearing outburst at fans, including women and children a couple of years back at Welford Road) and Genge. The poor judgement on Genge's part in participating in that video renders him unfit to represent our club at all, never mind leading it as Captain.

If I had my way he would not be played again, and would spend the remainder of his contract cleaning the Academy kids boots. What a cretin! :smt013

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Re: Genge leaving

Post by Cardiff Tig » Fri Dec 17, 2021 10:11 am

markharbtiger wrote:
Fri Dec 17, 2021 8:23 am
I really don't see what all the fuss is about re video. I'd hope our fan base was secure enough that such a thing could be seen for what it is. Move on.
Agreed. He's signed the contract, all this does is show it happening in person.

Bristol's social media team are head and shoulders above anything else in the league IMO. I bet few on here would have complained if there was a video of Pollard coming to Oval Park and signing his contract. Blaming Lam seems a bit much TBH. I doubt this was his idea unless he's now an expert in marketing...

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Re: Genge leaving

Post by RagingBull » Fri Dec 17, 2021 10:17 am

Bet the Montpellier would've been up in arms though.

Also Bristol media is miles behind Sam IMO. Literally all they have is tacky announcement videos which was fun at first but you can see the lower impressions as they kept milking the memey videos.

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Re: Genge leaving

Post by Surreytiger » Fri Dec 17, 2021 10:52 am

I think this puts SB in a very tricky position.

If he continues to pick Genge and keeps him as captain he runs the risk of looking weak.

If he drops him or strips the captaincy he could create a bigger issue and unsettle the squad if Ellis starts sulking and bickering at the training ground.

Genge has created a huge problem by going along with the video. I can’t see how he didn’t think this was going to hurt tigers fans!

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Re: Genge leaving

Post by fentiger » Fri Dec 17, 2021 11:17 am

The clock ticks down to midday with extra interest attached......

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Re: Genge leaving

Post by Wayne Richardson Fan Club » Fri Dec 17, 2021 11:31 am

RagingBull wrote:
Fri Dec 17, 2021 10:17 am
Bet the Montpellier would've been up in arms though.

Also Bristol media is miles behind Sam IMO. Literally all they have is tacky announcement videos which was fun at first but you can see the lower impressions as they kept milking the memey videos.
Bondi does seem a little restricted at present it must be said.

You could of cause say Ellis has made himself look a bit of a Sausage...
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Re: Genge leaving

Post by Bunchy » Fri Dec 17, 2021 11:32 am

Cant believe a lot of what I am reading...............

In my view he's done nothing wrong - it's what Bristol have done lots of times with other players. He realises it's timing was not great, and he's accepted that - time to forget it now. We may have done something similar with Pollard had covid allowed so instead we just did a Q&A - i dont see Montpellier creating such a fuss.............

As for the player himself, never given anything less than 100% and let's be crystal clear, he knew he was going back in the summer and nobody can question one minute of his performances on the pitch this season.
He also stuck by the club in the very dark times pre covid when the senior management were running the club into the ground.

And as for loyalty, it would be worth listening to the interview he did with Haskell about loyalty. There is very little in terms of loyalty back to the players from the clubs when contracts end and we should not expect it the other way.

I choose to judge him on what he has done for us on the pitch and I will continue to do that for the rest of the season as I expect the same Ellis Genge until he takes off the jersey for the final time!!
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Re: Genge leaving

Post by Cardiff Tig » Fri Dec 17, 2021 11:46 am

RagingBull wrote:
Fri Dec 17, 2021 10:17 am
Bet the Montpellier would've been up in arms though.

Also Bristol media is miles behind Sam IMO. Literally all they have is tacky announcement videos which was fun at first but you can see the lower impressions as they kept milking the memey videos.
Do you think it's that much different from the extended Q&A that Tigers published with Pollard when he signed?

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Re: Genge leaving

Post by RagingBull » Fri Dec 17, 2021 11:59 am

Massively different

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Re: Genge leaving

Post by Cardiff Tig » Fri Dec 17, 2021 12:06 pm

I don't think it's that different at all - they're just in different media forms.

As an aside, Borthwick was the captain of Bath as I recall when he signed for Saracens.

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Re: Genge leaving

Post by RagingBull » Fri Dec 17, 2021 12:09 pm

If they are different forms of media doesn’t that suggest it’s different straight away?

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Re: Genge leaving

Post by Cardiff Tig » Fri Dec 17, 2021 12:19 pm

Sure. But IMO, I don't see how an extended Q&A with a Montpellier player about how excited they are to come and start playing for Leicester is that different from a Leicester player being in a video showing him being excited to play for Bath. Other than the fact everyone on here has a bias towards this club, as you would only expect on the club forum!

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