Tigers vs Quins - 05th December 2021 - 3-00pm

[Old Hob]

Betfair have the following odds
Tigers 4/9
Draw 22/1
Quins 9/5

Handicap Betting: -5

I have no idea what this means. Do the bookies expect us to win, then?

[Tigerbeat]

Betfair have the following odds
Tigers 4/9
Draw 22/1
Quins 9/5

Handicap Betting: -5

I have no idea what this means. Do the bookies expect us to win, then?

Tigers are favorites to win by a margin of 5 points

[baz1664]

JVP is the only odd decision for me, he has been electric and would bring that spark in the last 20, Wiggs will just be slow and lumping up the box kicks. Fantastic team tho, that back 3 of the Berg, Wiese and Van Standen is international quality, going to be an amazing game!!!

[Fish8ter]

Wow, that is some side, the strongest we have put out for some time, with a great mix of youth and experience across the 23

Only minor gripe, would have loved to have seen JVP in the 23

Also very strong Quins side, so hopefully should be a fantastic game

[Big Dai]

4 tries apiece draw.....or Tigers by two.

4 brilliant, scintillating backs' move, length of the pitch tries from Quins. 3 catch and drive efforts from Tigers plus a penalty try from a 5m scrum.

Lovely!

[Ian Cant]

Any result is possible as it’s been a strange season so far. Discipline will be vitally important and Quins will be pumped up for this one.
They were decidedly rusty last week so I hope we aren’t this week!!
At least we should have more fans in to make even more noise. Huge game.

[Scott1]

Betfair have the following odds
Tigers 4/9
Draw 22/1
Quins 9/5

Handicap Betting: -5

I have no idea what this means. Do the bookies expect us to win, then?

It means if we win by 5 or less your bet comes in if you bet on the handicap. If you bet on Quins who are +6 then that means Quins could lose by 6 or less and your bet would still come in

[OakhamTiger32]

For me we have

15 Freddie Steward (First choice)
14 Harry Potter (First choice)
13 Matías Moroni (First choice)
12 Dan Kelly (First/Second choice)
11 Nemani Nadolo (First choice)
10 George Ford (First choice)
9 Ben Youngs (First choice)
1 Ellis Genge (First choice)
2 Julián Montoya (First choice)
3 Dan Cole (First choice)
4 Harry Wells (First choice)
5 Eli Snyman (First choice)
6 Hanro Liebenberg (First choice)
7 Marco van Staden (First choice)
8 Jasper Wiese (First choice)

So barring the tough call in the centres we have our entire first XV available.

REPLACEMENTS
16 Nic Dolly (Second choice)
17 Nephi Leatigaga (Second choice)
18 Joe Heyes (Second choice)
19 Ollie Chessum (Second choice)
20 Tommy Reffell (Second choice)
21 Richard Wigglesworth (Third choice)
22 Bryce Hegarty (Second/Third choice)
23 Guy Porter (Second choice but able to cover wing and centre)

For me this is as strong as it gets. Notable absentees of:

Green (Chessum is in better form so deserves the start)
Martin (Liebenberg gets the 6 jersey all day long and with Chessum and Reffell on the bench in a 5/3 split he sadly misses out)
JvP (Incredible talent and would have up'ed the tempo late on but I think Wigglesworth is the smart choice. He's been in great form this season and comments about him from previous posters I feel are more representative of his performances last season. He has been very solid and is just the sort of experienced player we may well need to close the game out in the final quarter)
Burns (likely still recovering from rib injury)
Scott (could well have started in place of Kelly but both are fine options)
Saumaki (not ever going to displace Nadolo and Potter so wasn't likely to feature but he made a great impression in the PRC)
Murimurivalu (would have been my choice for the 23 shirt as he's great over the ball and that's what we may well need to counter the threat from Green/Lynagh so would have gone for him but Porter covers centre with Hegarty able to cover FB so I can see why Porter got the nod)

Bookies have us favourites by 5 and I think that's about right. Will be very close. We should have them up front and we have the best defensive record in the league this season having only conceded 15 tries in 8 matches (compared to Quins who have conceded 21). They have the best attacking record with 35 tries scored in 8 matches (compared to our 31) and both sides have 5 TBP. Nothing really between the 2 sides to be honest and 2 fantastic squads.

Best attacking side vs best defensive side at a sell out MWWR.. COYT

[OakhamTiger32]

4 tries apiece draw.....or Tigers by two.

4 brilliant, scintillating backs' move, length of the pitch tries from Quins. 3 catch and drive efforts from Tigers plus a penalty try from a 5m scrum.

Lovely!

You are forgetting the care snipe 5m out try which he always seems to score against us!

[Rob18C]

For me we have

15 Freddie Steward (First choice)
14 Harry Potter (First choice)
13 Matías Moroni (First choice)
12 Dan Kelly (First/Second choice)
11 Nemani Nadolo (First choice)
10 George Ford (First choice)
9 Ben Youngs (First choice)
1 Ellis Genge (First choice)
2 Julián Montoya (First choice)
3 Dan Cole (First choice)
4 Harry Wells (First choice)
5 Eli Snyman (First choice)
6 Hanro Liebenberg (First choice)
7 Marco van Staden (First choice)
8 Jasper Wiese (First choice)

So barring the tough call in the centres we have our entire first XV available.

REPLACEMENTS
16 Nic Dolly (Second choice)
17 Nephi Leatigaga (Second choice)
18 Joe Heyes (Second choice)
19 Ollie Chessum (Second choice)
20 Tommy Reffell (Second choice)
21 Richard Wigglesworth (Third choice)
22 Bryce Hegarty (Second/Third choice)
23 Guy Porter (Second choice but able to cover wing and centre)

For me this is as strong as it gets. Notable absentees of:

Green (Chessum is in better form so deserves the start)
Martin (Liebenberg gets the 6 jersey all day long and with Chessum and Reffell on the bench in a 5/3 split he sadly misses out)
JvP (Incredible talent and would have up'ed the tempo late on but I think Wigglesworth is the smart choice. He's been in great form this season and comments about him from previous posters I feel are more representative of his performances last season. He has been very solid and is just the sort of experienced player we may well need to close the game out in the final quarter)
Burns (likely still recovering from rib injury)
Scott (could well have started in place of Kelly but both are fine options)
Saumaki (not ever going to displace Nadolo and Potter so wasn't likely to feature but he made a great impression in the PRC)
Murimurivalu (would have been my choice for the 23 shirt as he's great over the ball and that's what we may well need to counter the threat from Green/Lynagh so would have gone for him but Porter covers centre with Hegarty able to cover FB so I can see why Porter got the nod)

Bookies have us favourites by 5 and I think that's about right. Will be very close. We should have them up front and we have the best defensive record in the league this season having only conceded 15 tries in 8 matches (compared to Quins who have conceded 21). They have the best attacking record with 35 tries scored in 8 matches (compared to our 31) and both sides have 5 TBP. Nothing really between the 2 sides to be honest and 2 fantastic squads.

Best attacking side vs best defensive side at a sell out MWWR.. COYT

Well said, I think i agree with all of this!

[Big Dai]

4 tries apiece draw.....or Tigers by two.

4 brilliant, scintillating backs' move, length of the pitch tries from Quins. 3 catch and drive efforts from Tigers plus a penalty try from a 5m scrum.

Lovely!

You are forgetting the care snipe 5m out try which he always seems to score against us!

OK. Three blinding backs moves and a "quarter back sneak".

[OakhamTiger32]

4 tries apiece draw.....or Tigers by two.

4 brilliant, scintillating backs' move, length of the pitch tries from Quins. 3 catch and drive efforts from Tigers plus a penalty try from a 5m scrum.

Lovely!

You are forgetting the care snipe 5m out try which he always seems to score against us!

OK. Three blinding backs moves and a "quarter back sneak".

I reckon you’ve got it spot on.. 34-29 to Tigers

[DeadlyDunc]

For me we have

15 Freddie Steward (First choice)
14 Harry Potter (First choice)
13 Matías Moroni (First choice)
12 Dan Kelly (First/Second choice)
11 Nemani Nadolo (First choice)
10 George Ford (First choice)
9 Ben Youngs (First choice)
1 Ellis Genge (First choice)
2 Julián Montoya (First choice)
3 Dan Cole (First choice)
4 Harry Wells (First choice)
5 Eli Snyman (First choice)
6 Hanro Liebenberg (First choice)
7 Marco van Staden (First choice)
8 Jasper Wiese (First choice)

So barring the tough call in the centres we have our entire first XV available.

REPLACEMENTS
16 Nic Dolly (Second choice)
17 Nephi Leatigaga (Second choice)
18 Joe Heyes (Second choice)
19 Ollie Chessum (Second choice)
20 Tommy Reffell (Second choice)
21 Richard Wigglesworth (Third choice)
22 Bryce Hegarty (Second/Third choice)
23 Guy Porter (Second choice but able to cover wing and centre)

For me this is as strong as it gets. Notable absentees of:

Green (Chessum is in better form so deserves the start)
Martin (Liebenberg gets the 6 jersey all day long and with Chessum and Reffell on the bench in a 5/3 split he sadly misses out)
JvP (Incredible talent and would have up'ed the tempo late on but I think Wigglesworth is the smart choice. He's been in great form this season and comments about him from previous posters I feel are more representative of his performances last season. He has been very solid and is just the sort of experienced player we may well need to close the game out in the final quarter)
Burns (likely still recovering from rib injury)
Scott (could well have started in place of Kelly but both are fine options)
Saumaki (not ever going to displace Nadolo and Potter so wasn't likely to feature but he made a great impression in the PRC)
Murimurivalu (would have been my choice for the 23 shirt as he's great over the ball and that's what we may well need to counter the threat from Green/Lynagh so would have gone for him but Porter covers centre with Hegarty able to cover FB so I can see why Porter got the nod)

Bookies have us favourites by 5 and I think that's about right. Will be very close. We should have them up front and we have the best defensive record in the league this season having only conceded 15 tries in 8 matches (compared to Quins who have conceded 21). They have the best attacking record with 35 tries scored in 8 matches (compared to our 31) and both sides have 5 TBP. Nothing really between the 2 sides to be honest and 2 fantastic squads.

Best attacking side vs best defensive side at a sell out MWWR.. COYT

Well said, I think i agree with all of this!

Seconded!

[Noggs]

The key for me will be the set piece and breakdown management. We have a very strong pack including replacements and whilst Quins are also strong in this department I think we should hedge the battle

Two great sets of half backs and it will be interesting to see how the Ford/Smith match up works out. Clearly GF will have a point to prove to the young gun

The full back battle will also be interesting but for me Steward should come out on top.

We need to keep our discipline but if we do I see another win with hopefully 5 points

[Scott1]

Be nice to see Ford school Smith again,like he did last time