Saints Away - 30th October 2021

[OakhamTiger32]

From the Northampton Chronicle:

"Saints took so many knocks during the game, two of which look certain to rule players out of the derby.

Ollie Sleightholme had to come off at half-time with a hamstring injury, while Piers Francis came on and then came off as he failed a head injury assessment.

There were several other, as Chris Boyd calls them, 'dings', with Courtney Lawes, Fraser Dingwall and Juarno Augustus among those receiving treatment.

Dan Biggar looked in pain as he slotted the final conversion and Saints will have to do a real patch-up job this week as they look to put a team together.

They are also set to be without their Jersey-bound England players - Lawes, Lewis Ludlam, Tommy Freeman and George Furbank - for derby day."

Think Proctor is still injured too

[OakhamTiger32]

So from their team that beat Worcester:

Freeman; Sleightholme, Dingwall, Hutchinson, Skosan; Biggar, Mitchell; Waller, Matavesi, Hill, Ribbans, Ratuniyarawa, Lawes, Ludlam (capt), Harrison.

Replacements: Haywood, Iyogun, Painter, Wood, Augustus, Lomani, Francis, Coles

Bold are all the possible absentees from their last match.. quite an impact although I expect some of the players with niggles to feature especially Biggar

[Scott1]

I thought a failed HIA was an automatic week off regardless of concussion protocols.

[Tigerbeat]

I thought a failed HIA was an automatic week off regardless of concussion protocols.

They have to go a set number of days without any symptons before they can be let back to play..

[WhitecapTiger]

https://www.world.rugby/news/612885

Advanced level of concussion care

World Rugby strongly recommends that all players seek the highest level of medical care available following concussion or suspected concussion. This highest level of concussion care is supplied in an advanced care setting and shall include at least all of the following:

medical doctors with training and experience in recognising and managing concussion and suspected concussion; and
access to brain imaging facilities and neuroradiologists; and
access to a multidisciplinary team of specialists including neurologists, neurosurgeons, neuropsychologists, neurocognitive testing, balance and vestibular rehabilitation

An adult player with concussion or suspected concussion must have the minimum required one week rest referred to above unless that player accesses an advanced level of concussion care as verified by their Union and has received medical advice that the one week rest period is not required.

Advanced care is generally available within professional Rugby teams and allows for a more individualised management of concussion.

Even if advanced care is available:

an adult player who has been concussed must not return to play until they have been medically cleared to do so and has had a minimum 24 hour complete rest period and is symptom free;

an adult player who has suspected concussion must not return to play until they have been medically cleared to do

[Scott1]

Thanks ,I just had something in my head that they changed it

[Ian Cant]

Just Saints and local press saying what they’ve said in previous seasons the week before the “Derby” game. Lawes, Ludlum, Furbank and Freeman won’t play as they are in the England squad all the others will!

[OakhamTiger32]

Just Saints and local press saying what they’ve said in previous seasons the week before the “Derby” game. Lawes, Ludlum, Furbank and Freeman won’t play as they are in the England squad all the others will!

Would be surprised if Sleightholme is in the squad and the same goes for Francis.. the other 'dings' I reckon will feature. That being said I am sure Saints will be desperate to be the team to stop our unbeaten run.. let's hope we can keep it going hey!

[Ian Cant]

Saints will be licking their lips at the chance to end our run.
Off to Franklin’s so I hope lots of other Tigers’ fans will.
Than it’s Bath so as we will have so many players missing winning 1 out of 2 will be a great return. Don’t like losing to any team but especially these two!!
Both games could see strange scores!

[sam16111986]

The Saints loss of Freeman and Furbank could impact massively as aren’t they short in the backline anyway, with Proctor out for starters ?

Dingwall and another back limped off on Friday as well. They tend towards a 6:2 split in the bench anyway.

Short in the backline and missing their flankers we should be able to take the game to them.

Re our selection;

Van Wyk, Montoya, Heyes
Wells, Snyman
Chessum, Weise, Van Staden
JVP, Ford
Kelly, Moroni
Nadolo, Heggarty, Potter

Dolly, Leatigaga, Cole, Henderson, Reffell, Wigglesworth, Burns, Murimurivalu

Cole gets a little bit of a breather as does Green before coming back in for the Bath game. Heggarty looked solid in pre season so give him a go in the Steward role. Kelly should be fresh after his enforced absence so can stay in and Scott can take a break before the Bath game when Moroni will be with Argentina. Murimurivalu covers most of the backline.

Scott will be with Scotland unless he’s released for the Bath game

Oh ta, hadn't realised he'd been selected. I'd assumed with Johnson, Grigg, Harris and Jones he'd be down the pecking order and out of the squad again. If he's going to be away with Moroni for the Bath game then I'd start the pair of them Vs Saints and bring Kelly back for Bath with whomever we have available whether it's Socino, Porter or if Scott is released.

[Offside]

https://www.world.rugby/news/612885

Advanced level of concussion care

World Rugby strongly recommends that all players seek the highest level of medical care available following concussion or suspected concussion. This highest level of concussion care is supplied in an advanced care setting and shall include at least all of the following:

medical doctors with training and experience in recognising and managing concussion and suspected concussion; and
access to brain imaging facilities and neuroradiologists; and
access to a multidisciplinary team of specialists including neurologists, neurosurgeons, neuropsychologists, neurocognitive testing, balance and vestibular rehabilitation

An adult player with concussion or suspected concussion must have the minimum required one week rest referred to above unless that player accesses an advanced level of concussion care as verified by their Union and has received medical advice that the one week rest period is not required.

Advanced care is generally available within professional Rugby teams and allows for a more individualised management of concussion.

Even if advanced care is available:

an adult player who has been concussed must not return to play until they have been medically cleared to do so and has had a minimum 24 hour complete rest period and is symptom free;

an adult player who has suspected concussion must not return to play until they have been medically cleared to do

The enhanced medical care Premiership clubs have allows a 6 day return protocol but Francis has had some prolong absences due to concussion in the past so I hope they are cautious for his sake.

[RagingBull]

Will be interested if Borthwick goes Burns at 15.
It seems to be a tactic he likes having a 10 at 15.

[chipnchase]

No Kobus Van Wyk?

[OakhamTiger32]

No Kobus Van Wyk?

Not sure I’d have him in the team, especially when Potter, Nadolo and Murimurivalu are all available and in much better form

[sapajo]

No Kobus Van Wyk?

Not sure I’d have him in the team, especially when Potter, Nadolo and Murimurivalu are all available and in much better form

I think he has cooked his own goose with Borthwick. For me has done didly squat to earn a start let alone coming off the bench. Very disappointing when he came with such great expectations from us supporters.