England v Canada - 10th July 2021

[kk20gb30]

England executed far better that a week earlier.
Great for Harry Wells to claim full international recognition..

[BFG]

England executed far better that a week earlier.
Great for Harry Wells to claim full international recognition..

Did England execute better or were Canada not as good as the USA?

[Cagey Tiger]

Eddie will probably have learnt more from the training sessions than from these games against weak teams - who can adapt quickly to a different coaching set up, a different style of play, with less familiar team mates and still perform like they do at club level or better. What I think that he will have learnt from the games is who looks comfortable playing for England and, on the negative side, who didn't "get on the bus" and quite likely never will.

[kk20gb30]

England executed far better that a week earlier.
Great for Harry Wells to claim full international recognition..

Did England execute better or were Canada not as good as the USA?

Funnily enough I was thinking of adding that caveat to my initial statement - but at least the ball went to hand and there was better completion irrespective ......

[Cagey Tiger]

England executed far better that a week earlier.
Great for Harry Wells to claim full international recognition..

Did England execute better or were Canada not as good as the USA?

Both, with the latter contributing to the former. As an example, USA frequently challenged Freddy Steward under the high ball, putting him off on occasion and restricting his ability to attack. Canada hardly ever did, giving him a much easier ride and better opportunities to attack, which he did quite well IMHO.

[JP14]

In terms of young locks, I doubt this is the last time we’ll be seeing Chunya Munga in an EPS.

[jgriffin]

I'll carry on with MAN of the match as its men that are playing. If I upset anyone TOUGH! Really can't stand the bedwetting state of the world in this day and age

Are you getting offended, Scott?

Just don't like bedwetters mate who get offended over pathetic stuff ,they really need to man up and grow a pair!

You really need to grow up yourself and stop using sad language.

[JP14]

Are you getting offended, Scott?

Just don't like bedwetters mate who get offended over pathetic stuff ,they really need to man up and grow a pair!

You really need to grow up yourself and stop using sad language.

It’s all very ironic isn’t it how all these “anti-woke” people get so wound up by everything…

I haven’t seen anything to suggest that rugby bodies were heavily petitioned to make these terms gender neutral. In fact to me it’s just performative activism, making themselves look all egalitarian and feminist instead of doing something meaningful like actually properly funding the women’s game.

Not that I’m against having something like Star of the Match or MVP, the title “Player of the Match” just is a bit of a dull replacement in my view and also sounds like a very half-hearted effort as well.

[BFG]

England executed far better that a week earlier.
Great for Harry Wells to claim full international recognition..

Did England execute better or were Canada not as good as the USA?

Both, with the latter contributing to the former. As an example, USA frequently challenged Freddy Steward under the high ball, putting him off on occasion and restricting his ability to attack. Canada hardly ever did, giving him a much easier ride and better opportunities to attack, which he did quite well IMHO.

We already knew Steward could catch a high ball.
We already knew Genge could carry hard, most knew a long time ago and Dylan Hartley certainly did.
The opposition were just too weak.
The test was well below even Premiership standards in my opinion.

[Cagey Tiger]

Did England execute better or were Canada not as good as the USA?

Both, with the latter contributing to the former. As an example, USA frequently challenged Freddy Steward under the high ball, putting him off on occasion and restricting his ability to attack. Canada hardly ever did, giving him a much easier ride and better opportunities to attack, which he did quite well IMHO.

We already knew Steward could catch a high ball.
We already knew Genge could carry hard, most knew a long time ago and Dylan Hartley certainly did.
The opposition were just too weak.
The test was well below even Premiership standards in my opinion.

Don't disagree with any of this but they are nothing to do with your original question which framed as a black and white, either/or question. I was pointing out that the world generally isn't that simple. And within my example, I wasn't querying Steward's ability under the high ball. Simply that Canada's lack of challenges allowed him to show his attacking abilities more often and often better than against the USA.

[BFG]

Both, with the latter contributing to the former. As an example, USA frequently challenged Freddy Steward under the high ball, putting him off on occasion and restricting his ability to attack. Canada hardly ever did, giving him a much easier ride and better opportunities to attack, which he did quite well IMHO.

We already knew Steward could catch a high ball.
We already knew Genge could carry hard, most knew a long time ago and Dylan Hartley certainly did.
The opposition were just too weak.
The test was well below even Premiership standards in my opinion.

Don't disagree with any of this but they are nothing to do with your original question which framed as a black and white, either/or question. I was pointing out that the world generally isn't that simple. And within my example, I wasn't querying Steward's ability under the high ball. Simply that Canada's lack of challenges allowed him to show his attacking abilities more often and often better than against the USA.

Canada were just too easy to bully for that England side.
For the U20's it might be a test.
A strong side stops it and this is where the test is needed.
I reckon even I could have had half decent moments at 9 yesterday.

[Scott1]

Hard to gauge anything out of that really,any GP side would’ve beat Canada. But Eddie would’ve still seen what the new guys were like in camp,how they integrated,their attitudes etc. As for Genge,comfortably man of the match,and he’s done that against many a team at domestic,European and International level. Be interesting to see who gets another chance in the autumn ,I believe Eddie will rest a few of the Lions or they will get limited game time so there’s still chances there for players to force their way into the 2022 6N

[mol2]

The problem with having Genge in the squad and not playing him results in a loss of form.

He needs to re-name himself Macko and he will be nailed onstarter.

[Scott1]

The problem with having Genge in the squad and not playing him results in a loss of form.

He needs to re-name himself Macko and he will be nailed onstarter.

Yes,he always comes back to us worse off before he regains his form. For me now he's nailed on first choice with Marler on the bench. Makos gonna have to have a fantastic tour to displace those 2!

[Scott1]

Did anyone find out the George Martin mystery? Is he injured? Did Eddie not fancy him? Is he happy with him and wanted to look at others? Have to admit I havnt seen anything on it!