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Williams gives good balance to the bench but the Risk is AWJ injury in first few mins.
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Not a bad team to be fair, front row is the form one, Lawes and AWJ fitness will be questionably due to recent injuries and lay offs but have to play due to physicality and AWJ being a leader. Would have gone with Hogg and Van Der Merwe, Hogg is our version of Kolbe and Der Merwe has a point to make and has power. Unlucky on Adams, would have played Harris and Henshaw at centre as both quality international operators. The big boot theory for Daly doesn’t get him in the starting 15 for me, his England form was just shocking, let’s hope he can prove us wrong!!

I think it’s going to be a tight game but see SA turning the screw in the 2nd half.
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Apart from Conan at 8 and the backs on the bench, can't say I have much quarrel with that squad.
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baz1664 wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:26 am Not a bad team to be fair, front row is the form one, Lawes and AWJ fitness will be questionably due to recent injuries and lay offs but have to play due to physicality and AWJ being a leader. Would have gone with Hogg and Van Der Merwe, Hogg is our version of Kolbe and Der Merwe has a point to make and has power. Unlucky on Adams, would have played Harris and Henshaw at centre as both quality international operators. The big boot theory for Daly doesn’t get him in the starting 15 for me, his England form was just shocking, let’s hope he can prove us wrong!!

I think it’s going to be a tight game but see SA turning the screw in the 2nd half.
There's no question with Lawes injury,he's been back long enough now
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Whenever a Lions team is published a question always seems to pop up in my mind. (Firstly full disclosure: I am a Lions sceptic always have been. It seems faintly ridiculous to me that four home nations gang up to play one SH nation). Anyway the question I ask myself is would that selected Lions team beat the team that won the previous season's 6 Nations? For the purposes of this entirely hypothetical question, players play for their home nation not the Lions. Or, a very similar question would the 23 Lions selected for Saturday beat a full strength French 23 (played at a neutral venue)? I'm not convinced they would.
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Jacko27 wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 12:16 pm Whenever a Lions team is published a question always seems to pop up in my mind. (Firstly full disclosure: I am a Lions sceptic always have been. It seems faintly ridiculous to me that four home nations gang up to play one SH nation). Anyway the question I ask myself is would that selected Lions team beat the team that won the previous season's 6 Nations? For the purposes of this entirely hypothetical question, players play for their home nation not the Lions. Or, a very similar question would the 23 Lions selected for Saturday beat a full strength French 23 (played at a neutral venue)? I'm not convinced they would.
Maybe the Lions squad could be selected similarly to how the winner of the 6N is often decided, by some refs who missed their specsavers appointments.
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Front row is the form one, fair selection, albeit I think George should feel unlucky to have lost out to Owens, think JG is a better option.
Second row, don’t agree at all with AWJ selection, leader or not, makes a mockery of tour form. I thought Gray or Ryan should have gone over Beard, but his form on tour made me change my mind. I’d have had Itoje and Beard.
I would have had Lawes in my 23, but think Beirne is unlucky to only make the bench. Watson has been brilliant, but I think Curry has been better, so rightly gets the start. Not been overly impressed by any of the 8’s, would have been tempted to play Curry at 8 with Watson at 7, but if they want a specialist 8 nobody has really stood out for me.
9 & 10 picked on form, can’t disagree.
12, if Henshaw is fit it makes sense, I think he’s better suited than Farrell, probably more rounded than Harris/Aki. Daly at 13 isn’t a surprise, he’s been most used there, and has actually had a decent tour.
Back 3, Watson was a shoe in, would probably have gone for Williams and Adams really, but Hogg and VDM isn’t exactly shoddy is it.
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BFG wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 12:31 pm
Jacko27 wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 12:16 pm Whenever a Lions team is published a question always seems to pop up in my mind. (Firstly full disclosure: I am a Lions sceptic always have been. It seems faintly ridiculous to me that four home nations gang up to play one SH nation). Anyway the question I ask myself is would that selected Lions team beat the team that won the previous season's 6 Nations? For the purposes of this entirely hypothetical question, players play for their home nation not the Lions. Or, a very similar question would the 23 Lions selected for Saturday beat a full strength French 23 (played at a neutral venue)? I'm not convinced they would.
Maybe the Lions squad could be selected similarly to how the winner of the 6N is often decided, by some refs who missed their specsavers appointments.
Oh dear! Still not got over it?
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Wouldn't have picked AWJ. Too soon after the injury for me. He'll be a target for the boks and we know how good the boks are at targeting a weakness. It's a selection on reputation not form. (IMHO and with all the useual caveats.)

(They say he has a heavy tackle, but the only bloke who really knows is Joe Marler.)

Harris for Daly at centre for me and Watson in at 7. The big boshing back row is in need of a ferret!
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Big Dai wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:45 pm Wouldn't have picked AWJ. Too soon after the injury for me. He'll be a target for the boks and we know how good the boks are at targeting a weakness. It's a selection on reputation not form. (IMHO and with all the useual caveats.)

(They say he has a heavy tackle, but the only bloke who really knows is Joe Marler.)

Harris for Daly at centre for me and Watson in at 7. The big boshing back row is in need of a ferret!
Curry gets more than his fair share of turnovers tbf,Itoje and Lawes are no slouches either
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Then why not add to it.

Cow and Dicky aren't bad either!
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Big Dai wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:45 pm Wouldn't have picked AWJ. Too soon after the injury for me. He'll be a target for the boks and we know how good the boks are at targeting a weakness. It's a selection on reputation not form. (IMHO and with all the useual caveats.)

(They say he has a heavy tackle, but the only bloke who really knows is Joe Marler.)

Harris for Daly at centre for me and Watson in at 7. The big boshing back row is in need of a ferret!
Don’t think they’d have risked AWJ unless they were confident.
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Big Dai wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:49 pm Then why not add to it.

Cow and Dicky aren't bad either!
True. I just think Curry’s all round game is better than Watsons but it’s a tight call,I imagine that was the toughest call
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Dokie wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:50 pm
Big Dai wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:45 pm Wouldn't have picked AWJ. Too soon after the injury for me. He'll be a target for the boks and we know how good the boks are at targeting a weakness. It's a selection on reputation not form. (IMHO and with all the useual caveats.)

(They say he has a heavy tackle, but the only bloke who really knows is Joe Marler.)

Harris for Daly at centre for me and Watson in at 7. The big boshing back row is in need of a ferret!
Don’t think they’d have risked AWJ unless they were confident.
Or an ex Welsh coach? 😂😂

What's that film where they needed an icon to follow so they tied the dead leader to his horse and sent it into battle.....? It's a bit like that for me...... We will see what we will see.
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Big Dai wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:00 pm
Dokie wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:50 pm
Big Dai wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:45 pm Wouldn't have picked AWJ. Too soon after the injury for me. He'll be a target for the boks and we know how good the boks are at targeting a weakness. It's a selection on reputation not form. (IMHO and with all the useual caveats.)

(They say he has a heavy tackle, but the only bloke who really knows is Joe Marler.)

Harris for Daly at centre for me and Watson in at 7. The big boshing back row is in need of a ferret!
Don’t think they’d have risked AWJ unless they were confident.
Or an ex Welsh coach? 😂😂

What's that film where they needed an icon to follow so they tied the dead leader to his horse and sent it into battle.....? It's a bit like that for me...... We will see what we will see.
EL CID wasn’t quite as hard as AWJ
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