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Just watched some of the C5 highlights of the Quins:Bath game.

Just left me wondering how far forward does as pass have to be before the TMO decides it is clear an obvious.

One looked about 45 degrees and was taken about 2 yards ahead.....Yes the TMO said not clear and obvious.

Bring on ball sensors before the game get turned into handball.
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mol2 wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 7:58 pm Just watched some of the C5 highlights of the Quins:Bath game.

Just left me wondering how far forward does as pass have to be before the TMO decides it is clear an obvious.

One looked about 45 degrees and was taken about 2 yards ahead.....Yes the TMO said not clear and obvious.

Bring on ball sensors before the game get turned into handball.
Been saying this for WEEKS! :smt023
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Big Dai wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 8:16 pm
mol2 wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 7:58 pm Just watched some of the C5 highlights of the Quins:Bath game.

Just left me wondering how far forward does as pass have to be before the TMO decides it is clear an obvious.

One looked about 45 degrees and was taken about 2 yards ahead.....Yes the TMO said not clear and obvious.

Bring on ball sensors before the game get turned into handball.
Been saying this for WEEKS! :smt023
And even better if it happens soon after or soon before a player drops the ball, it lands slightly backwards but it gets called knock on...
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Crofty wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:49 pm
Big Dai wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 8:16 pm
mol2 wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 7:58 pm Just watched some of the C5 highlights of the Quins:Bath game.

Just left me wondering how far forward does as pass have to be before the TMO decides it is clear an obvious.

One looked about 45 degrees and was taken about 2 yards ahead.....Yes the TMO said not clear and obvious.

Bring on ball sensors before the game get turned into handball.
Been saying this for WEEKS! :smt023
And even better if it happens soon after or soon before a player drops the ball, it lands slightly backwards but it gets called knock on...
Spot on
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Dokie wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 2:11 pm
Crofty wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:49 pm
Big Dai wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 8:16 pm

Been saying this for WEEKS! :smt023
And even better if it happens soon after or soon before a player drops the ball, it lands slightly backwards but it gets called knock on...
Spot on
Oi you! 😂
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Scott1 wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 2:15 pm
Dokie wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 2:11 pm
Crofty wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:49 pm

And even better if it happens soon after or soon before a player drops the ball, it lands slightly backwards but it gets called knock on...
Spot on
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Six nations? Williams try? Knock on ring a bell? 😂
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Scott1 wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 2:22 pm Six nations? Williams try? Knock on ring a bell? 😂
The one where if it's your player everyone says play on you mean.
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Wayne Richardson Fan Club wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 2:39 pm
Scott1 wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 2:22 pm Six nations? Williams try? Knock on ring a bell? 😂
The one where if it's your player everyone says play on you mean.
It was a knock on,he was never in control. It was a joke decision and everyone knows it!
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Scott1 wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 2:22 pm Six nations? Williams try? Knock on ring a bell? 😂
No bells 🔔 ringing here
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Dokie wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 2:41 pm
Scott1 wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 2:22 pm Six nations? Williams try? Knock on ring a bell? 😂
No bells 🔔 ringing here
Haha I've never got over it! But you did deserve the win and the tile though tbf. I'm getting soft in my old age 😂
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Now, I'm trying to view this through both eyes :smt030 however, it does seem to me the strongest protagonists of the marginally forward pass and who get away with a lot are Quins followed by Northampton and Wasps? :smt017
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fentiger wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 2:51 pm Now, I'm trying to view this through both eyes :smt030 however, it does seem to me the strongest protagonists of the marginally forward pass and who get away with a lot are Quins followed by Northampton and Wasps? :smt017
Certainly the first two pass the ball more than most so statistically, it probably fits.
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That's why ball sensors are essential. Too much scope for interpretation and blatant incompetence.

Likewise the interpretation of a player fumbling and regaining the ball has to be made clear. If the ball is going forwards from a player & touches the grass or another player it will be deemed a knock on unless the ball is clearly held, (not juggled) or has actively been kicked with the boot having been released from both hands. (If dropped in a forward direction from one and an attempted hoof won't be deemed an intentional kick). Forward out of two hands is a real kick. Release from one hand to kick is a loss of control.
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mol2 wrote: Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:15 am That's why ball sensors are essential. Too much scope for interpretation and blatant incompetence.

Likewise the interpretation of a player fumbling and regaining the ball has to be made clear. If the ball is going forwards from a player & touches the grass or another player it will be deemed a knock on unless the ball is clearly held, (not juggled) or has actively been kicked with the boot having been released from both hands. (If dropped in a forward direction from one and an attempted hoof won't be deemed an intentional kick). Forward out of two hands is a real kick. Release from one hand to kick is a loss of control.
Shame Gauzere didn't know these laws,you think he would being an international ref 🤪
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