Premiership Week 18

[OakhamTiger32]

For those asking why we weren't competing at line outs in our own 22 last night, that was why.

Not sure anyone was asking about lineouts in our own 22. I was questioning why we didn't challenge a lineout in their half 15s before the HT whistle.. a bit like one against Saints a few weeks ago. Inside our own 22 is a different matter

Probably similar, no reason to let them start a whistled march down the field and go in even further behind at HT.

Look at Montpellier Bath though.. ultimately you could argue Montpellier won by challenging at the lineout. It's a fine line but for me with 15s to go to HT or FT and we are behind (as was the case vs Saints and Sale) why give them a free lineout which they are only going to recycle and kick out which is the end of the match. That was my point.. in both these cases it seemed very strange to me

[Crofty]

Not sure anyone was asking about lineouts in our own 22. I was questioning why we didn't challenge a lineout in their half 15s before the HT whistle.. a bit like one against Saints a few weeks ago. Inside our own 22 is a different matter

Probably similar, no reason to let them start a whistled march down the field and go in even further behind at HT.

Look at Montpellier Bath though.. ultimately you could argue Montpellier won by challenging at the lineout. It's a fine line but for me with 15s to go to HT or FT and we are behind (as was the case vs Saints and Sale) why give them a free lineout which they are only going to recycle and kick out which is the end of the match. That was my point.. in both these cases it seemed very strange to me

Perhaps consider how we lost against Bath, penalty, line out, penalty, lineout, try I suspect that particular meltdown is stuck in the players' heads still.

[OakhamTiger32]

How did we lose at home to Saints?!

Been a very mixed season with everyone beating everyone. Seems that one thing is a certainty.. whether home or away teams seem to put out a full strength side vs us expecting to get the win. As SB has said winning and losing becomes a habit. I still think we are in the habit of losing. We have had some very impressive performances this season already but we should have beaten Bath and Saints. If we had won those 2 matches perhaps last night might have been different. We are lacking in confidence but the second half against Ulster showed what we can do. I think if we can beat Montpellier it could be a real turning point for us

[OakhamTiger32]

Probably similar, no reason to let them start a whistled march down the field and go in even further behind at HT.

Look at Montpellier Bath though.. ultimately you could argue Montpellier won by challenging at the lineout. It's a fine line but for me with 15s to go to HT or FT and we are behind (as was the case vs Saints and Sale) why give them a free lineout which they are only going to recycle and kick out which is the end of the match. That was my point.. in both these cases it seemed very strange to me

Perhaps consider how we lost against Bath, penalty, line out, penalty, lineout, try I suspect that particular meltdown is stuck in the players' heads still.

Those penalties were inexcusable and the reason we lost to Bath (imho) is because of an unnecessary push by Heyes and Heyes and Wiese getting involved in a scuffle when they should have walked away. The reason we lost to Bath has nothing to do with competing or not at the lineout

[Scott1]

Thought you couldn’t kick the ball out the ruck?!

[OakhamTiger32]

This game is pretty average as are Saints on this showing! Have they put out a B team?

[Scott1]

This game is pretty average as are Saints on this showing! Have they put out a B team?

Was just thinking,why couldn’t this Saints team have turned up at WR?!

[OakhamTiger32]

This game is pretty average as are Saints on this showing! Have they put out a B team?

Was just thinking,why couldn’t this Saints team have turned up at WR?!

And the Bath team that played Montpellier..

[OakhamTiger32]

Well there’s no way Saints are winning this.. game set and match

[Scott1]

Saints being destroyed!

[Crofty]

Look at Montpellier Bath though.. ultimately you could argue Montpellier won by challenging at the lineout. It's a fine line but for me with 15s to go to HT or FT and we are behind (as was the case vs Saints and Sale) why give them a free lineout which they are only going to recycle and kick out which is the end of the match. That was my point.. in both these cases it seemed very strange to me

Perhaps consider how we lost against Bath, penalty, line out, penalty, lineout, try I suspect that particular meltdown is stuck in the players' heads still.

Those penalties were inexcusable and the reason we lost to Bath (imho) is because of an unnecessary push by Heyes and Heyes and Wiese getting involved in a scuffle when they should have walked away. The reason we lost to Bath has nothing to do with competing or not at the lineout

The point is they were penalties and going up for a tussle against Sale's lineout seems a sure fire way to give away penalties.

[Scott1]

Chiefs 5-10 Wuss

[Scott1]

Newcastle 14-8 LI

[Scott1]

TBP,Rees Zammitt

[Scott1]

Offside but he’s given it, nope he was actually on. He’s just that fast