Jackal cheats

[Noggs]

I've noticed a number of cases where the jackaler at the breakdown secures the ball from the tackled player but does not lift it in order to gain a penalty. This happened late in the Ulster/Saints game where the player on the ground released the ball which was held against his body by the jackaler's left hand whilst he held onto his body with his right arm. As soon as the whistle was blown he lifted the ball with his left hand with a big grin on his face. The refs need to look out for this more.

[OakhamTiger32]

I've noticed a number of cases where the jackaler at the breakdown secures the ball from the tackled player but does not lift it in order to gain a penalty. This happened late in the Ulster/Saints game where the player on the ground released the ball which was held against his body by the jackaler's left hand whilst he held onto his body with his right arm. As soon as the whistle was blown he lifted the ball with his left hand with a big grin on his face. The refs need to look out for this more.

A tough one to spot that but you're right it needs policing. It's a bit like in other areas of the game.. is a player going off their feet at the ruck or is the defending player stepping backwards? At scrum time is the front row pushing early or the opposition stepping back? The player on the floor has clearly rolled away but the 9 theatrically falls over him to draw the penalty. Or the 9 simply throwing the ball into a retreating offside player to draw the penalty... Lots of areas of the game have similar things and they all need a watchful eye from the referee. Sadly I don't think many of the Premiership referees are likely to spot this sort of behaviour and it will just be the player on the floor getting pinged each time

[Noggs]

You could call these things 'game craft' and I am certain that some of it is coached. The refs job at this level is very difficult and he won't spot everything but this is a relative new one to me and hasn't to my knowledge been highlighted and discussed. No doubt someone will be able to tell me I am wrong in this.

[ourla]

If a jackaller (sp?) has their hands on the ball but doesn't attempt to pick it up a penalty should be awarded against the jackaller.

[Scott1]

I've noticed a number of cases where the jackaler at the breakdown secures the ball from the tackled player but does not lift it in order to gain a penalty. This happened late in the Ulster/Saints game where the player on the ground released the ball which was held against his body by the jackaler's left hand whilst he held onto his body with his right arm. As soon as the whistle was blown he lifted the ball with his left hand with a big grin on his face. The refs need to look out for this more.

A tough one to spot that but you're right it needs policing. It's a bit like in other areas of the game.. is a player going off their feet at the ruck or is the defending player stepping backwards? At scrum time is the front row pushing early or the opposition stepping back? The player on the floor has clearly rolled away but the 9 theatrically falls over him to draw the penalty. Or the 9 simply throwing the ball into a retreating offside player to draw the penalty... Lots of areas of the game have similar things and they all need a watchful eye from the referee. Sadly I don't think many of the Premiership referees are likely to spot this sort of behaviour and it will just be the player on the floor getting pinged each time

That have stopped falling for the 9 throwing the ball at a retreating player and did start awarding penalties against the 9 so it very rarely happens anymore

[OakhamTiger32]

I've noticed a number of cases where the jackaler at the breakdown secures the ball from the tackled player but does not lift it in order to gain a penalty. This happened late in the Ulster/Saints game where the player on the ground released the ball which was held against his body by the jackaler's left hand whilst he held onto his body with his right arm. As soon as the whistle was blown he lifted the ball with his left hand with a big grin on his face. The refs need to look out for this more.

A tough one to spot that but you're right it needs policing. It's a bit like in other areas of the game.. is a player going off their feet at the ruck or is the defending player stepping backwards? At scrum time is the front row pushing early or the opposition stepping back? The player on the floor has clearly rolled away but the 9 theatrically falls over him to draw the penalty. Or the 9 simply throwing the ball into a retreating offside player to draw the penalty... Lots of areas of the game have similar things and they all need a watchful eye from the referee. Sadly I don't think many of the Premiership referees are likely to spot this sort of behaviour and it will just be the player on the floor getting pinged each time

That have stopped falling for the 9 throwing the ball at a retreating player and did start awarding penalties against the 9 so it very rarely happens anymore

Good.. I'm glad.. used to really annoy me when players did that.. bit like diving in football seem to remember Stringer used to do it a fair bit.. memory might have him mixed up with somebody else but glad it's being stamped out

[LittleBigG]

A tough one to spot that but you're right it needs policing. It's a bit like in other areas of the game.. is a player going off their feet at the ruck or is the defending player stepping backwards? At scrum time is the front row pushing early or the opposition stepping back? The player on the floor has clearly rolled away but the 9 theatrically falls over him to draw the penalty. Or the 9 simply throwing the ball into a retreating offside player to draw the penalty... Lots of areas of the game have similar things and they all need a watchful eye from the referee. Sadly I don't think many of the Premiership referees are likely to spot this sort of behaviour and it will just be the player on the floor getting pinged each time

That have stopped falling for the 9 throwing the ball at a retreating player and did start awarding penalties against the 9 so it very rarely happens anymore

Good.. I'm glad.. used to really annoy me when players did that.. bit like diving in football seem to remember Stringer used to do it a fair bit.. memory might have him mixed up with somebody else but glad it's being stamped out

Then again, I sympathize when the retreating players repeatedly decide to go the "long way" round the ruck, slowing everything down... something which certain teams are clearly being coached to do...