FANTASY SAXONS/ENGLAND SUMMER TOUR 23

[Wayne Richardson Fan Club]

Isn't it rather presumptuous that Kelly will want to play for England?

[JP14]

Isn't it rather presumptuous that Kelly will want to play for England?

Considering he has signed an extension to play to continue playing for Tigers in light of rumoured Irish interest, no.

[Scott1]

I’ll move this here if anyone wants a go,hopefully they get a tour!
Feel free to fill in the blanks!
1. Obano
2. Dunn
3. Heyes
4.
5. Martin
6. Dombrandt
7. Evans
8. Simmonds
9. Randall
10. Simmonds
11.
12. Lawrence
13. Odogwu
14.
15. Steward

This is my take on a hybrid team if there was only one tour. Please feel free to name a England tour team and a Saxons one if you would prefer

At least 1 Simmonds will be with the Lions

That’s a bold call,Faletau will go for sure. Will Gatland gamble on Billy V? Can’t see Joe going with Sexton,Biggar,Farrell,Ford and Russell in the mix and Hogg covering 10. Sam maybe as a bolter,Joe no chance imo.

[Wayne Richardson Fan Club]

Isn't it rather presumptuous that Kelly will want to play for England?

Considering he has signed an extension to play to continue playing for Tigers in light of rumoured Irish interest, no.

Doesn't stop him playing for Ireland, just reduces the chance.

[BFG]

Isn't it rather presumptuous that Kelly will want to play for England?

Why would it be rather presumptuous given that he was born in Manchester?

[Leicestertinytiger]

Think you’d need a good mix of experience and new players coming through. England’s style suits a big 8 so Barbeary and Dombrandt for me. Care and Smith play together for club so would be a good intro to Smith at test level.

Genge, Obano
Dunn, Singleton
Heyes, Hill
Martin, Launchbury
Ewels, Kpoku
Hill, Isiekwe
Earl, Evans
Barbeary, Dombrandt
Care, Randall
Smith, Simmonds
Daly, Thorley
Devoto, Kelly
Marchant, Lawrence
Odogwu
Steward, Hodge

[JP14]

I'll be very surprised if Care goes.

[JP14]

I’ll move this here if anyone wants a go,hopefully they get a tour!
Feel free to fill in the blanks!
1. Obano
2. Dunn
3. Heyes
4.
5. Martin
6. Dombrandt
7. Evans
8. Simmonds
9. Randall
10. Simmonds
11.
12. Lawrence
13. Odogwu
14.
15. Steward

This is my take on a hybrid team if there was only one tour. Please feel free to name a England tour team and a Saxons one if you would prefer

At least 1 Simmonds will be with the Lions

That’s a bold call,Faletau will go for sure. Will Gatland gamble on Billy V? Can’t see Joe going with Sexton,Biggar,Farrell,Ford and Russell in the mix and Hogg covering 10. Sam maybe as a bolter,Joe no chance imo.

I agree with Scott, far too many fly halves in contention for Joe Simmonds to be on that plane, plus Gatland is going for versatility which means with Farrell and Hogg not much room at all for more than 2 flyhalves.

[JP14]

I reckon Parton of London Irish stands a good chance, as the selection of Daly, Furbank, Malins and Watson suggest that Jones prefers counterattacking fullbacks.

[sam16111986]

Think you’d need a good mix of experience and new players coming through. England’s style suits a big 8 so Barbeary and Dombrandt for me. Care and Smith play together for club so would be a good intro to Smith at test level.

Genge, Obano
Dunn, Singleton
Heyes, Hill
Martin, Launchbury
Ewels, Kpoku
Hill, Isiekwe
Earl, Evans
Barbeary, Dombrandt
Care, Randall
Smith, Simmonds
Daly, Thorley
Devoto, Kelly
Marchant, Lawrence
Odogwu
Steward, Hodge

We have one viable international 9 now is not the time to take a 34 year old that hasn't troubled the international scene in years for one last hurrah.

Obano, West, Rodd
Dunn, Langdon, Barbeary
Heyes, Williams, Painter
Ribbans, Beaumont
Isiekwe, Kpoku
Hill, Martin - Eddie likes the idea of a lock/6 after all
Evans, Ludlow
Simmonds, Dombrandt
Randall, Mitchell, Maunder
Smith, Simmonds
Radwan, Thorley
O'Connor, S James
Marchant, Lawrence
Odogwu, Loader
Steward, Parton

34 man squad. None of the normal selections but still a strong squad with a lot of options. Few guys we can tie down, there could be some movement between now and the end of the season particularly with the back three and backrow. Create real competition and give the non-Lions selections a proper pre season ready for the new season so that Eddie has a nice selection headache.

[JP14]

Think you’d need a good mix of experience and new players coming through. England’s style suits a big 8 so Barbeary and Dombrandt for me. Care and Smith play together for club so would be a good intro to Smith at test level.

Genge, Obano
Dunn, Singleton
Heyes, Hill
Martin, Launchbury
Ewels, Kpoku
Hill, Isiekwe
Earl, Evans
Barbeary, Dombrandt
Care, Randall
Smith, Simmonds
Daly, Thorley
Devoto, Kelly
Marchant, Lawrence
Odogwu
Steward, Hodge

We have one viable international 9 now is not the time to take a 34 year old that hasn't troubled the international scene in years for one last hurrah.

Obano, West, Rodd
Dunn, Langdon, Barbeary
Heyes, Williams, Painter
Ribbans, Beaumont
Isiekwe, Kpoku
Hill, Martin - Eddie likes the idea of a lock/6 after all
Evans, Ludlow
Simmonds, Dombrandt
Randall, Mitchell, Maunder
Smith, Simmonds
Radwan, Thorley
O'Connor, S James
Marchant, Lawrence
Odogwu, Loader
Steward, Parton

34 man squad. None of the normal selections but still a strong squad with a lot of options. Few guys we can tie down, there could be some movement between now and the end of the season particularly with the back three and backrow. Create real competition and give the non-Lions selections a proper pre season ready for the new season so that Eddie has a nice selection headache.

Painter? Slow, penalty machine and ineffectual scrummager that will offer England nothing. I would rather bring back his teammate Paul Hill, who has been playing well, into the fold.

[Leicestertinytiger]

I know a few people have picked Barbeary at hooker, but for me his future is at 8, give him the freedom to do what he does best which is carrying the ball. He has the best carrying stats for a forward in the premiership, Wiese a close second.

Same with Martin, he’s been playing 6 for us but for England would like to see him played more in the engine room. We’ve got plenty of flankers, especially with Ted Hill who is a unit.

[sam16111986]

Think you’d need a good mix of experience and new players coming through. England’s style suits a big 8 so Barbeary and Dombrandt for me. Care and Smith play together for club so would be a good intro to Smith at test level.

Genge, Obano
Dunn, Singleton
Heyes, Hill
Martin, Launchbury
Ewels, Kpoku
Hill, Isiekwe
Earl, Evans
Barbeary, Dombrandt
Care, Randall
Smith, Simmonds
Daly, Thorley
Devoto, Kelly
Marchant, Lawrence
Odogwu
Steward, Hodge

We have one viable international 9 now is not the time to take a 34 year old that hasn't troubled the international scene in years for one last hurrah.

Obano, West, Rodd
Dunn, Langdon, Barbeary
Heyes, Williams, Painter
Ribbans, Beaumont
Isiekwe, Kpoku
Hill, Martin - Eddie likes the idea of a lock/6 after all
Evans, Ludlow
Simmonds, Dombrandt
Randall, Mitchell, Maunder
Smith, Simmonds
Radwan, Thorley
O'Connor, S James
Marchant, Lawrence
Odogwu, Loader
Steward, Parton

34 man squad. None of the normal selections but still a strong squad with a lot of options. Few guys we can tie down, there could be some movement between now and the end of the season particularly with the back three and backrow. Create real competition and give the non-Lions selections a proper pre season ready for the new season so that Eddie has a nice selection headache.

Painter? Slow, penalty machine and ineffectual scrummager that will offer England nothing. I would rather bring back his teammate Paul Hill, who has been playing well, into the fold.

Paul Hill is a good shout. It was an off the top of my head selection so might be a bit rough in places. Hill has still got some years in the tank as well I think he's only 26.

TinyTiger, if he offers what he does at 8 from hooker as well as the other hooker skills he'll be one of the best in the world in the next few years. Barbeary can go as the third hooker and play a bit of both positions so the England coaches can get a good look at him. Martin I listed at 6 because that's where England might want to use him initially. He could slot into lock as well the selections aren't hard and fast, Isiekwe could be slotted into 6 as well. Beaumont can cover the backrow.

I think currently England need physicality in the backrow and have two world class opensides. We have a number of locks but a physical blindside that can be the third lineout jumper Eddie likes could go far. Wilson was given the chance in the 6N but didn't quite make the position his own. Lawes has been used in the role previously. Eddie has previously said he'd need a bigger physical option at 6 to allow him to pick Simmonds as well...

[Scott1]

Dombradt at 6 would give you some leeway if you play Simmonds at 8.

[Wayne Richardson Fan Club]

Isn't it rather presumptuous that Kelly will want to play for England?

Why would it be rather presumptuous given that he was born in Manchester?

Well he turned out for Ireland U20s...