tjs10inOz wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 11:23 am
It used to be the law that, if an act of foul play was committed by the defending team during the act of a try being scored, the referee is still entitled to restart the game with a penalty to the attacking side on the halfway line...effectively giving the opportunity for a 10 point try.
However that Law (22.17) appears to have now been downgraded from a penalty kick to a free kick.
tjs10inOz wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 11:23 am
It used to be the law that, if an act of foul play was committed by the defending team during the act of a try being scored, the referee is still entitled to restart the game with a penalty to the attacking side on the halfway line...effectively giving the opportunity for a 10 point try.
However that Law (22.17) appears to have now been downgraded from a penalty kick to a free kick.
In a school game I once shoved into an opponent after he scored out of frustration and the ref gave them the penalty from the restart. I think that law should be fully reinstated and officiated properly.
Once played in a game where our 2nd row broke through the line, proceded to smash through the opposition fullback, run in under the posts, he turned round under the posts and gave the finger to the opposition before scoring the try. Ref allowed the try to stand but the opposition had a penalty from the restart for unsporting behaviour....
Used to run around with an 11, 14 or 15 on my back.
It would suggest Barnes was right then to not award the PT.. unless he blew the whistle at the moment of the "offence" the try stands, & as the try was scored the actions of Price had no detrimental affect on the play, so has an offence actually happened?
For me the fact the try stands as a try is good as the rugby deserved it, but a yellow was deserved but it really isn't obvious if it could be given.
The penalty on restart - is that not for offences that occur after the try has been scored (by either side) for the examples of unsporting conduct or a knee into the try scorer.
Not sure that you can restart with a penalty for an infringement that occurred before the try was scored. That would be the "advantage" over. Cards can be dished out, of course.
Scott1 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 1:23 pm
Good job we had Hamish Smales outstanding performance in the Bristol v Quins game to restore our faith in officiating because Barnes and Dickson had shockers! Dickson has took CMK title as the league's worse ref for me now!
Do I read into that CMK may have improved? Or are you of the view that he's not improved and Dickson has just slotted in below him?
It wasn't a penalty try that was scored against Tigers on Sunday, but we could easily have been down to 12 players if Newcastle hadn't scored that try, we were almost certainly on the limit for another yellow but for that score.
Scott1 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 1:23 pm
Good job we had Hamish Smales outstanding performance in the Bristol v Quins game to restore our faith in officiating because Barnes and Dickson had shockers! Dickson has took CMK title as the league's worse ref for me now!
Do I read into that CMK may have improved? Or are you of the view that he's not improved and Dickson has just slotted in below him?
Smales was excellent, is he new or refs in another league? Scottish I assume? We don't hear enough from posters when a ref does well, wonder why?
Scott1 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 1:23 pm
Good job we had Hamish Smales outstanding performance in the Bristol v Quins game to restore our faith in officiating because Barnes and Dickson had shockers! Dickson has took CMK title as the league's worse ref for me now!
Do I read into that CMK may have improved? Or are you of the view that he's not improved and Dickson has just slotted in below him?
Smales was excellent, is he new or refs in another league? Scottish I assume? We don't hear enough from posters when a ref does well, wonder why?
His 5th game in this league apparently, I dont recall seeing him before though
"Rugby isn't a contact sport,ballroom dancing is a contact sport. Rugby is a collision sport" Heyneke Meyer
Tigerbeat wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:30 pm
Hamish has been an assistant ref a few times at Welford Road before stepping into the middle.
He was the referee for our Premiership Rugby Cup game against Worcester a couple of years ago.
I clearly wasn't impressed with him as my teenage daughter pointed out that while I could complain as much as I liked, it didn't change anything as the referees decision is final - some things you don't forget! Pleasing though that he has improved to such an extent that he has now been anointed as a refereeing god by some.
Tigerbeat wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:30 pm
Hamish has been an assistant ref a few times at Welford Road before stepping into the middle.
He was the referee for our Premiership Rugby Cup game against Worcester a couple of years ago.
I clearly wasn't impressed with him as my teenage daughter pointed out that while I could complain as much as I liked, it didn't change anything as the referees decision is final - some things you don't forget! Pleasing though that he has improved to such an extent that he has now been anointed as a refereeing god by some.
Who said he was a refereeing God?! You mustve dreamt that I'm afraid.
"Rugby isn't a contact sport,ballroom dancing is a contact sport. Rugby is a collision sport" Heyneke Meyer
Scott1 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 1:23 pm
Good job we had Hamish Smales outstanding performance in the Bristol v Quins game to restore our faith in officiating because Barnes and Dickson had shockers! Dickson has took CMK title as the league's worse ref for me now!
Do I read into that CMK may have improved? Or are you of the view that he's not improved and Dickson has just slotted in below him?
Smales was excellent, is he new or refs in another league? Scottish I assume? We don't hear enough from posters when a ref does well, wonder why?
