RagingBull wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:17 pm
Looking at Cole on the bench suggests to be a degree of rotation in the selections at least.
I get the feeling Potter and Porter are most likely still injured or not 100% fit.
I think that's it. Rotate away to Quins and hope for a fully fit or close to it squad for the home match against Wasps.
I really like Martin but would personally have liked to have seen a back row of:
6. Liebenberg
7. Reffell
8. Brink
Just my opinion of course and SB and the coaches are the only ones that matter
Oakham lad born and bred, Tigers season ticket holder who is enjoying steady progression back towards the good old days!
This will be the first time in a very long time I’ve not been to Quins and I’d prefer to watch this game at Quins as I think, looking at the side Quins has put out, that this could be a long afternoon. Not sure about the back row: Wiese a huge loss.
I was hoping we could build on last weeks performance with the same combinations out! This has been a consistent problem for us over the last 4 seasons or so: Quins put out almost the same team as the last few weeks and so it’s no surprise that the results have been great since Gustard left. I’m surprised Marcus Smith is fit having gone off after 22’ last week.
Come on Tigers: surprise us and get a win.
Ian Cant wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:23 pm
This will be the first time in a very long time I’ve not been to Quins and I’d prefer to watch this game at Quins as I think, looking at the side Quins has put out, that this could be a long afternoon. Not sure about the back row: Wiese a huge loss.
I was hoping we could build on last weeks performance with the same combinations out! This has been a consistent problem for us over the last 4 seasons or so: Quins put out almost the same team as the last few weeks and so it’s no surprise that the results have been great since Gustard left. I’m surprised Marcus Smith is fit having gone off after 22’ last week.
Come on Tigers: surprise us and get a win.
I totally agree with you, my thoughts are why not make one change each week to rest players rather than do it all in one go and damage the continuity, all I want is a settled tigers side, unfortunately I don’t feel that will ever be the case.
Ian Cant wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:23 pm
This will be the first time in a very long time I’ve not been to Quins and I’d prefer to watch this game at Quins as I think, looking at the side Quins has put out, that this could be a long afternoon. Not sure about the back row: Wiese a huge loss.
I was hoping we could build on last weeks performance with the same combinations out! This has been a consistent problem for us over the last 4 seasons or so: Quins put out almost the same team as the last few weeks and so it’s no surprise that the results have been great since Gustard left. I’m surprised Marcus Smith is fit having gone off after 22’ last week.
Come on Tigers: surprise us and get a win.
I totally agree with you, my thoughts are why not make one change each week to rest players rather than do it all in one go and damage the continuity, all I want is a settled tigers side, unfortunately I don’t feel that will ever be the case.
One change a week? From 22 rounds you think a team of 15 would be able to stay fresh by making 1 change a week?
Ian Cant wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:23 pm
This will be the first time in a very long time I’ve not been to Quins and I’d prefer to watch this game at Quins as I think, looking at the side Quins has put out, that this could be a long afternoon. Not sure about the back row: Wiese a huge loss.
I was hoping we could build on last weeks performance with the same combinations out! This has been a consistent problem for us over the last 4 seasons or so: Quins put out almost the same team as the last few weeks and so it’s no surprise that the results have been great since Gustard left. I’m surprised Marcus Smith is fit having gone off after 22’ last week.
Come on Tigers: surprise us and get a win.
I totally agree with you, my thoughts are why not make one change each week to rest players rather than do it all in one go and damage the continuity, all I want is a settled tigers side, unfortunately I don’t feel that will ever be the case.
I wouldn't be surprised if there's been a few positive tests/injuries contributing to the rotation, no coach generally likes to rotate everyone for all the games, but I don't think it's a bad team at all.
Used to run around with an 11, 14 or 15 on my back.
Ian Cant wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:23 pm
This will be the first time in a very long time I’ve not been to Quins and I’d prefer to watch this game at Quins as I think, looking at the side Quins has put out, that this could be a long afternoon. Not sure about the back row: Wiese a huge loss.
I was hoping we could build on last weeks performance with the same combinations out! This has been a consistent problem for us over the last 4 seasons or so: Quins put out almost the same team as the last few weeks and so it’s no surprise that the results have been great since Gustard left. I’m surprised Marcus Smith is fit having gone off after 22’ last week.
Come on Tigers: surprise us and get a win.
I totally agree with you, my thoughts are why not make one change each week to rest players rather than do it all in one go and damage the continuity, all I want is a settled tigers side, unfortunately I don’t feel that will ever be the case.
One change a week? From 22 rounds you think a team of 15 would be able to stay fresh by making 1 change a week?
We don’t know whether there are injuries in the camp. So this may be squad rotation or it may be forced. No point speculating.
RagingBull wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:17 pm
Looking at Cole on the bench suggests to be a degree of rotation in the selections at least.
I get the feeling Potter and Porter are most likely still injured or not 100% fit.
I think that's it. Rotate away to Quins and hope for a fully fit or close to it squad for the home match against Wasps.
I really like Martin but would personally have liked to have seen a back row of:
6. Liebenberg
7. Reffell
8. Brink
Just my opinion of course and SB and the coaches are the only ones that matter
Brink, for me is a type of player similar to Dave Ewers at Exeter in my opinion. A bruiser flanker who can play 8 but you would only play him there if you really had to.
Formerly of Burbaaage (not Inkleh), now up north at uni
Ian Cant wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:23 pm
This will be the first time in a very long time I’ve not been to Quins and I’d prefer to watch this game at Quins as I think, looking at the side Quins has put out, that this could be a long afternoon. Not sure about the back row: Wiese a huge loss.
I was hoping we could build on last weeks performance with the same combinations out! This has been a consistent problem for us over the last 4 seasons or so: Quins put out almost the same team as the last few weeks and so it’s no surprise that the results have been great since Gustard left. I’m surprised Marcus Smith is fit having gone off after 22’ last week.
Come on Tigers: surprise us and get a win.
I totally agree with you, my thoughts are why not make one change each week to rest players rather than do it all in one go and damage the continuity, all I want is a settled tigers side, unfortunately I don’t feel that will ever be the case.
One change a week? From 22 rounds you think a team of 15 would be able to stay fresh by making 1 change a week?
I guess it's easy to throw stones but the reality is that none of us know the reasoning behind this selection. Is it enforced by injuries or COVID or have the coaches decided to rest a few players with one eye on the home match against Wasps.
As much as I would love to see Wiese starting at 8, if anyone deserves a rest it's him. Nadolo being injured and perhaps Potter and Porter not fully fit means Moroni switches to the wing and Taute has to step in to the centres. Cole gets a bit of a rest and adds impact off the bench and the backrow.. well, it's not my personally choice but Liebenberg is more than capable at 8 and has put in some great performances for us there, Martin is certainly a huge potential and has performed well and Brink.. well that's the weak link for me not having Reffell starting but Brink has also played very well of late so here's hoping we are all pleasantly surprised. COYT
Oakham lad born and bred, Tigers season ticket holder who is enjoying steady progression back towards the good old days!
I think people are getting too hung up on Wiese not starting.
We will have to play games without him.
I think unlike before when we did rotation it seemed to be on mass, at least now generally we are trying to keep a lot of starting and experienced players to help the younger players coming in.
RagingBull wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:33 pm
I think people are getting too hung up on Wiese not starting.
We will have to play games without him.
I think unlike before when we did rotation it seemed to be on mass, at least now generally we are trying to keep a lot of starting and experienced players to help the younger players coming in.
Yeah 100% agree about Wiese. Don't panic Mr Mainwaring!
Formerly of Burbaaage (not Inkleh), now up north at uni
RagingBull wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:17 pm
Looking at Cole on the bench suggests to be a degree of rotation in the selections at least.
I get the feeling Potter and Porter are most likely still injured or not 100% fit.
I think that's it. Rotate away to Quins and hope for a fully fit or close to it squad for the home match against Wasps.
I really like Martin but would personally have liked to have seen a back row of:
6. Liebenberg
7. Reffell
8. Brink
Just my opinion of course and SB and the coaches are the only ones that matter
Brink, for me is a type of player similar to Dave Ewers at Exeter in my opinion. A bruiser flanker who can play 8 but you would only play him there if you really had to.
Fair point. To be honest I am pleased to see Martin get a rare start as I think he's got a lot of potential and has played well the few times he's appeared thus far
Oakham lad born and bred, Tigers season ticket holder who is enjoying steady progression back towards the good old days!
RagingBull wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:33 pm
I think people are getting too hung up on Wiese not starting.
We will have to play games without him.
I think unlike before when we did rotation it seemed to be on mass, at least now generally we are trying to keep a lot of starting and experienced players to help the younger players coming in.
And it's nice that we have players of a high calibre at the club that their absence is worthy of such debate. He is such a an important player that his absence is always going to be a loss but as you rightly say, we will have to play games without him. Not heard anymore about Van Staden but I am hoping one day we get to see a back 3 of Liebenberg, Van Staden and Wiese.
Oakham lad born and bred, Tigers season ticket holder who is enjoying steady progression back towards the good old days!
Ian Cant wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:23 pm
This will be the first time in a very long time I’ve not been to Quins and I’d prefer to watch this game at Quins as I think, looking at the side Quins has put out, that this could be a long afternoon. Not sure about the back row: Wiese a huge loss.
I was hoping we could build on last weeks performance with the same combinations out! This has been a consistent problem for us over the last 4 seasons or so: Quins put out almost the same team as the last few weeks and so it’s no surprise that the results have been great since Gustard left. I’m surprised Marcus Smith is fit having gone off after 22’ last week.
Come on Tigers: surprise us and get a win.
I totally agree with you, my thoughts are why not make one change each week to rest players rather than do it all in one go and damage the continuity, all I want is a settled tigers side, unfortunately I don’t feel that will ever be the case.
One change a week? From 22 rounds you think a team of 15 would be able to stay fresh by making 1 change a week?
No, I don’t think it would be possible, however my point was that i wish would make gradual changes from week to week, rather than going all out for three weeks then removing most of the higher calibration players at the same time. I would rather have some than nine. But i’m no coach at the end of the day.
Not sure I agree with the scepticism about Brink. He’s a six and a half rather than a fetcher like Reffel but he is good over ball and, crucially, a very good line out option. Weise missing is a big blow. Taute at 13 does not overtly weaken our back line given the way that we play and Moroni on the wing will be very solid.
They have been playing very well and that back line is excellent but I still think we can get to them up front. Fear we will lose but that’s not as important as a good performance away from home.
