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Re: 6 NATIONS 2021

Post by JP14 » Sun Mar 14, 2021 4:56 pm

Ireland sealed off and were in at the side all game, but probably deserved the win on balance of the lineout and winning the ball in the air.
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Re: 6 NATIONS 2021

Post by tigerburnie » Sun Mar 14, 2021 4:58 pm

Both sides were going in the side all game, playing the ref obviously, both sides were flopping on top of the ruck, seems to be a disease of the modern game, Exeter do it all day too.
"If you want entertainment, go to the theatre," says Edinburgh head coach Richard Cockerill. "Rugby players play the game to win.15/1/21.

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Re: 6 NATIONS 2021

Post by h's dad » Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:04 pm

Scott1 wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:39 pm
Who is the monster Scotland 11?
That well known Jock, Duhan van der Merwe, is 6'4" and apparently pushing 17 stone!
I am neither clever enough to understand nor stupid enough to play this game

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Re: 6 NATIONS 2021

Post by Scott1 » Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:04 pm

h's dad wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:04 pm
Scott1 wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:39 pm
Who is the monster Scotland 11?
That well known Jock, Duhan van der Merwe, is 6'4" and apparently pushing 17 stone!
Beast mode! 😂

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Re: 6 NATIONS 2021

Post by Wayne Richardson Fan Club » Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:26 pm

h's dad wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:04 pm
Scott1 wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:39 pm
Who is the monster Scotland 11?
That well known Jock, Duhan van der Merwe, is 6'4" and apparently pushing 17 stone!
& now happily qualified off to Worcester next season....
To win is not as important as playing with style!

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Re: 6 NATIONS 2021

Post by mol2 » Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:49 pm

Traveller wrote:
Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:54 pm
mol2 wrote:
Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:05 pm
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I find Farrell difficult to love, but he is some goal kicker. The difference between Tigers today being nip ant tuck in the final few minutes and England actually winning a close game was the fact that Mr Farrell slots everything from everywhere, pretty much all the time.
Not sure on that one.
He is not as good a kicker as Ford and came close to losing the Autumn international against France by missing repeatedly and refusing to hand over.
That was true in one game. But if you're going to use one game to argue a point. I'll take the 2nd highest points scorer in English rugby history as my benchmark. To think England have used Farrell for so long who 'is not as good a goal kicker as Ford'. Presumably it's just to even up the contest with their opponents?
No it is just the fixed ideas Jones has.
I stand by my assertion that Ford is a better kicker and having seen him kick week in week out at Welford Road many would concur. Ford’s range wasn’t as long as Farrells’ but we have seen that extend over the past 3 or 4 years.
The really long kick in the AI against France should have been taken by a Daly and after looking out of sorts in his first few kicks Farrell as captain should have been ruthless with himself and handed over to Ford. Leadership is also about knowing when to delegate not just leading from the front.

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Re: 6 NATIONS 2021

Post by kk20gb30 » Mon Mar 15, 2021 6:23 am

Scotland , after a bright start to the Championship , have slipped back some , disappointing ...
Seemingly heading rapidly toward senility ......... Not long or far to go now......

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Re: 6 NATIONS 2021

Post by JP14 » Mon Mar 15, 2021 8:42 am

To be fair I think that's the best I have seen Ireland play under Andy Farrell so far.
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Re: 6 NATIONS 2021

Post by Traveller » Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:14 am

mol2 wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:49 pm
Traveller wrote:
Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:54 pm
mol2 wrote:
Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:05 pm


Not sure on that one.
He is not as good a kicker as Ford and came close to losing the Autumn international against France by missing repeatedly and refusing to hand over.
That was true in one game. But if you're going to use one game to argue a point. I'll take the 2nd highest points scorer in English rugby history as my benchmark. To think England have used Farrell for so long who 'is not as good a goal kicker as Ford'. Presumably it's just to even up the contest with their opponents?
No it is just the fixed ideas Jones has.
I stand by my assertion that Ford is a better kicker and having seen him kick week in week out at Welford Road many would concur. Ford’s range wasn’t as long as Farrells’ but we have seen that extend over the past 3 or 4 years.
The really long kick in the AI against France should have been taken by a Daly and after looking out of sorts in his first few kicks Farrell as captain should have been ruthless with himself and handed over to Ford. Leadership is also about knowing when to delegate not just leading from the front.
I suppose that 'fixed idea' that Jones has must come from him and his coaching team watching them in training, looking at the data they have and deciding "right boys, lets go with our second best goal kicker in this match and lets keep on doing it. Match after match." That's elite coaches for you.

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Re: 6 NATIONS 2021

Post by TigerBoy1880 » Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:22 am

kk20gb30 wrote:
Mon Mar 15, 2021 6:23 am
Scotland , after a bright start to the Championship , have slipped back some , disappointing ...
Well they have played their “World Cup Final” against England and won which is all they care about to be honest.

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Re: 6 NATIONS 2021

Post by JP14 » Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:19 am

Would like to see you say that to a Scot's face!
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Re: 6 NATIONS 2021

Post by ay2oh » Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:33 am

JP14 wrote:
Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:19 am
Would like to see you say that to a Scot's face!
I have two Scottish friends who both agree that they only care about beating England and that’s why they will never win anything
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Re: 6 NATIONS 2021

Post by tigerburnie » Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:38 pm

h's dad wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:04 pm
Scott1 wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:39 pm
Who is the monster Scotland 11?
That well known Jock, Duhan van der Merwe, is 6'4" and apparently pushing 17 stone!
He's almost as big as me, though to be fair he is a tad quicker lol.
"If you want entertainment, go to the theatre," says Edinburgh head coach Richard Cockerill. "Rugby players play the game to win.15/1/21.

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Re: 6 NATIONS 2021

Post by tigerburnie » Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:40 pm

ay2oh wrote:
Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:33 am
JP14 wrote:
Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:19 am
Would like to see you say that to a Scot's face!
I have two Scottish friends who both agree that they only care about beating England and that’s why they will never win anything
I live in Scotland and my Scots rugby playing friends say the very same thing to me, even if it's only tiddlywinks, they have to beat the English, anybody else really doesn't matter to them.
"If you want entertainment, go to the theatre," says Edinburgh head coach Richard Cockerill. "Rugby players play the game to win.15/1/21.

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Re: 6 NATIONS 2021

Post by tigerburnie » Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:42 pm

JP14 wrote:
Mon Mar 15, 2021 8:42 am
To be fair I think that's the best I have seen Ireland play under Andy Farrell so far.
You could see the hand of O'Connell all over that performance, he may not have been on the pitch, but he led that side from the dressing room.
"If you want entertainment, go to the theatre," says Edinburgh head coach Richard Cockerill. "Rugby players play the game to win.15/1/21.

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