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Is it defence that's the issue?

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https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/ ... -breakdown

I've got to be honest, if we went back to the 'way we were' with tackle clear-outs, rucking etc, fold-in scrum formation (with straight put-ins and real hooking), fewer subs and a real offside line, I would be more likely to cheer the often turgid games. In my day turgid games were much better turgid games!!! :smt004
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jgriffin wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:19 pm https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/ ... -breakdown

I've got to be honest, if we went back to the 'way we were' with tackle clear-outs, rucking etc, fold-in scrum formation (with straight put-ins and real hooking), fewer subs and a real offside line, I would be more likely to cheer the often turgid games. In my day turgid games were much better turgid games!!! :smt004
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strawclearer wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 2:33 pm
jgriffin wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:19 pm https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/ ... -breakdown

I've got to be honest, if we went back to the 'way we were' with tackle clear-outs, rucking etc, fold-in scrum formation (with straight put-ins and real hooking), fewer subs and a real offside line, I would be more likely to cheer the often turgid games. In my day turgid games were much better turgid games!!! :smt004
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I believe I still have some scars from old fashioned rucking, you didn't lay offside for long did you.
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So that's what they are, I thought they were stretch marks. biggest problem with the old days was that after a really good shoeing it was often necessary to replace your studs.
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johnthegriff wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:48 pm So that's what they are, I thought they were stretch marks. biggest problem with the old days was that after a really good shoeing it was often necessary to replace your studs.
Or at least ask the other chap to pull them out of his leg and give them back.
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tigerburnie wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:42 pm I believe I still have some scars from old fashioned rucking, you didn't lay offside for long did you.
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Games were turgid because the ball got stuck in mauls and rucks and the new law interpretations were designed to prevent the endless resets/ restarts. I agree that playing the old way and enforcing the immediate release (which was always the law) would be great. Players are fitter now. I think some of the slowness in the old game was due to people wanting a breather. Certainly, at my college , we had a tennis court with a high mesh fence next to the pitch and only one visible match ball. Hoofing it into the tennis court which had only one entrance was certain to give us a break. Of course, other match balls could be revealed if we were in a hurry .
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Old Hob wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:33 pm Games were turgid because the ball got stuck in mauls and rucks and the new law interpretations were designed to prevent the endless resets/ restarts. I agree that playing the old way and enforcing the immediate release (which was always the law) would be great. Players are fitter now. I think some of the slowness in the old game was due to people wanting a breather. Certainly, at my college , we had a tennis court with a high mesh fence next to the pitch and only one visible match ball. Hoofing it into the tennis court which had only one entrance was certain to give us a break. Of course, other match balls could be revealed if we were in a hurry .
"Games were turgid because the ball got stuck in mauls and rucks" often because the balls were leather that absorbed the rainwater & puddles. However I do recall Gilbert's brought out a trial white latex grip coated leather ball that was great.
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Nothing wrong with the defence in that first half :smt023
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chappie wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:49 pm Nothing wrong with the defence in that first half :smt023
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