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I fancy even I could occasionally look useful against Italy.mol2 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 7:05 pmYoung’s has bucket loads of talent but his enthusiasm for club rugby seems dulled, perhaps by knowing or feeling there is diddly squat he do do at club level or what his role is.
Lat week against Italy he was t outstanding England player.
Perhaps a rugby equivalent of David Gower in cricket?
aslongaswebeatsaints wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:01 am I think it’s a really good signing. In reality a half player / half coach who has shown that age is only a mentality and will bring level headedness to the squad and a mentorship to the youngsters.
Spot on!Pesky predictive text
Was getting bored with this thread reading the same comments over and over but this sums it up perfectly imho.. well said and a welcome additionjohnthegriff wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 9:11 am Wigglesworth has given sterling service to both Sale, Saracens and England over many years he has now joined us and I look for the same level of service. I do not condemn him for the financial sins of his former club, they were not the responsibility of the players, the legal people and those in charge at Sarries told the players that all was ok with cap regulations and that was accepted by the players who were not expected to be expert in those matters. I am not aware of any problem with payments or benefits that would concern HMRC. The guy has made a bad error in behaviour re the night out with Barbarians colleagues with unfortunate consequences this to me does not put him in the same bracket as Calum Clark or Paddy Jackson, Wayne Richardson Fan Club says it is the sign of a wrong un and ignoring something small is the start of a slippery slope. I confess that in the past I have driven at 37 miles per hour in a 30 limit and as child went scrumping now in my mid seventies my slippery slope continues.
The signing of an experienced but past his best scrum half begs the question why? On reflection we know that Ben Youngs is going to be away with England for an extended period, our back-up is the excellent but inexperienced Ben White and the promising Jack Van Portlivet, we need two 9's for each match and apart from those mentioned we only have one other (currently used as a utility player) who has some senior experience in the position, are we vulnerable to injury at scrum half? Yes! Will our young players benefit from having Richard Wiigglesworth around offering advice? Yes! In my opinion a good and timely signing and I welcome him to our club.
AgreedDingDong wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 10:10 amaslongaswebeatsaints wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:01 am I think it’s a really good signing. In reality a half player / half coach who has shown that age is only a mentality and will bring level headedness to the squad and a mentorship to the youngsters.
Agreed, but the interesting things for me were that we seemed to kick less and that Dan Cole made a successful kick chase (by which I mean he arrived at exactly the right moment to take down the catcher). If Dan Cole can do it in his first match with Wigglesworth (although maybe they appeared together for England at some point?) then all this stuff about the kickers needing time to adjust because we have Nadolo instead of May, or we shouldn't be playing that way at all because we don't have Jonny May, was way off the mark. It helped immeasurably that we were playing much of the match on the front foot, of course, thanks to our revamped pack.kk20gb30 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:24 am Massively impressive Vs Gloucester....
Managed the game and the players around him very well - you could actually see the instructions being given out....
More than anything else however , was the huge difference in the overall quality and delivery of the/his kicking.
The man to implement the plan ?
It's easier to have a successful kick chase when the opposition aren't always set up for it. Wigglesworth when he kicked varied lengths and depths, and we didn't always kick. Much harder to defend if your back 3 don't know how deep to line up.Tiglon wrote: ↑Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:02 amAgreed, but the interesting things for me were that we seemed to kick less and that Dan Cole made a successful kick chase (by which I mean he arrived at exactly the right moment to take down the catcher). If Dan Cole can do it in his first match with Wigglesworth (although maybe they appeared together for England at some point?) then all this stuff about the kickers needing time to adjust because we have Nadolo instead of May, or we shouldn't be playing that way at all because we don't have Jonny May, was way off the mark. It helped immeasurably that we were playing much of the match on the front foot, of course, thanks to our revamped pack.kk20gb30 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:24 am Massively impressive Vs Gloucester....
Managed the game and the players around him very well - you could actually see the instructions being given out....
More than anything else however , was the huge difference in the overall quality and delivery of the/his kicking.
The man to implement the plan ?
I'm pretty sure Cole has played with Wigglesworth for England in the Lancastrian days not sure if they did under Eddie Jones. That was a good hit though, and Cole wasn't the only one I noticed Green and Wells were able to chase the kicks well.Tiglon wrote: ↑Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:02 amAgreed, but the interesting things for me were that we seemed to kick less and that Dan Cole made a successful kick chase (by which I mean he arrived at exactly the right moment to take down the catcher). If Dan Cole can do it in his first match with Wigglesworth (although maybe they appeared together for England at some point?) then all this stuff about the kickers needing time to adjust because we have Nadolo instead of May, or we shouldn't be playing that way at all because we don't have Jonny May, was way off the mark. It helped immeasurably that we were playing much of the match on the front foot, of course, thanks to our revamped pack.kk20gb30 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:24 am Massively impressive Vs Gloucester....
Managed the game and the players around him very well - you could actually see the instructions being given out....
More than anything else however , was the huge difference in the overall quality and delivery of the/his kicking.
The man to implement the plan ?
