Autumn Nations Cup

[jgriffin]

Well done Lowe! Absolute demolition job,what has happened to Wales? Edwards is a huge loss

They've fallen back on borderline defence, very NZ, but not streetwise enough to get away with it.

BTW Scott1 my youngest went to school with AWJ and never rated him as a player then!!

Not just me than haha it makes me think who was the most important to Wales? Gatland or Edwards? It’s an interesting question,especially now looking at France. Sean brings a lot more than just defence to a team

Having said that, the most impressive junior I or either of my sons saw was Gavin Henson, who was perma-tanned at 13 and had stunning vision/execution. Why are the extravagantly talented like Henson and Cipriani complete with self-destruct buttons, yet the second rank have longevity?

[Tiglon]

Well done Lowe! Absolute demolition job,what has happened to Wales? Edwards is a huge loss

They've fallen back on borderline defence, very NZ, but not streetwise enough to get away with it.

BTW Scott1 my youngest went to school with AWJ and never rated him as a player then!!

How many caps does your youngest have now?

[jgriffin]

Dislocated shoulder at 15 plus knackered ankle (skateboarding, not rugby) that is awaiting ANOTHER operation 20 years later. His comment about AWJ was in the context of a couple of other players at Bishop Gore being far more talented, but AWJ's lawyer family sent him to all the training camps - the others were working class guys.

[Wayne Richardson Fan Club]

Dislocated shoulder at 15 plus knackered ankle (skateboarding, not rugby) that is awaiting ANOTHER operation 20 years later. His comment about AWJ was in the context of a couple of other players at Bishop Gore being far more talented, but AWJ's lawyer family sent him to all the training camps - the others were working class guys.

Henson was a real talent, but broke his body by too much weight training & didn't help himself off field, when you used to watch him for Swansea he looked like a SH back.

[longlivethecrumbie]

Watching NZ v Argentina and they have the ABs well and truly rattled. Sanchez has been class.

[Tiglon]

Dislocated shoulder at 15 plus knackered ankle (skateboarding, not rugby) that is awaiting ANOTHER operation 20 years later. His comment about AWJ was in the context of a couple of other players at Bishop Gore being far more talented, but AWJ's lawyer family sent him to all the training camps - the others were working class guys.

Ah sorry to hear that (genuinely).

A lot in life can be down to chance and opportunity. You still have to make the most of it though.

There's also a lot more to success than having talent. Determination and work ethic are far more important. That's why the likes of Cipriani and Henson are overshadowed by lesser talents.

[JP14]

In response to comments about the 'Ruckgate' match, it's true that, when Eddie Jones had promised to take Italy "to the cleaners", the tactic did prevent an 80-0 drubbing some were predicting. However the long-term impact of the game was merely a change of laws by World Rugby to stop it happening again because quite frankly it wasn't rugby and I remember nearly wanting to launch the TV out of the window watching it.

Yes England were poor and it took them too long to adapt, but at the end of the day it achieved very little for Italy except for preventing a cricket score and social media notoriety.

Sidenote: I believe that game was the last time that Dan Cole scored a try.

I didn't launch the TV; I was shouting the obvious solution to the stunningly dim English players. It didn't need a rule change - just pick and go with nobody in front of you until they stop it. Which would be one phase.

To be honest, I was equally frustrated at England's inability to adapt.

[JP14]

I'm loving the Italy vs Scotland game!

[Scott1]

Weirs hair

[JP14]

The decision for Garbezi to go for the sticks at 14-14 instead of the corner probably cost Italy the game, really cruel they didn't even at least get a bonus point.

[JP14]

Good to see some good moustaches out there.

[Scott1]

Wow doesn’t Willis look like Tadh Furlong haha

[Scott1]

Penalty try? Terrible decision by Owens there!

[Scott1]

If it goes up going backwards it’s a penalty surely?!

[Offside]

Is it me or has the camera man or producer got the cameras zoomed in too close on this game. Cannot see the play about to be passed to or the ball on rucks on the line. Even reset the TV in case it was my setup? Seem to want picture on the face more than the ball. Need to have some understanding of the game.