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Autumn Nations Cup

Post by Noggs » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:20 am

Hopefully the following will be helpful to users:

Autumn Nations Cup 2020

This new international competition is between England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland, France, Italy, Fiji, and Georgia.

There will be two pools of four countries in the tournament.

Group A:
England, Ireland, Wales, and Georgia

Group B:
France, Scotland, Italy, and Fiji.

Each team will play the teams in their group once by the end of the third weekend.
Based on the group rankings coming into the final weekend, each team will face the team ranked in the same position in the opposite pool. This means the teams who come first in Group A and Group B will compete for first place, the teams who come second will compete for second place and so on.

All sixteen matches of the new tournament will be played over the four weekends from 13 November, 2020 to 6 December, 2020.

Round 1
13 November: Ireland v Wales (Aviva Stadium) - 19:00 (UK time)
14 November: Italy v Scotland (TBC) - 12:45
14 November: England v Georgia (Twickenham) - 15:00
15 November: France v Fiji (TBC) – TBC

Round 2
21 November: Italy v Fiji (TBC) - 12:45
21 November: England v Ireland (Twickenham) - 15:00
21 November: Wales v Georgia (TBC) - 17:15
22 November: Scotland v France (Murrayfield) - 15:00

Round 3
28 November: Scotland v Fiji (Murrayfield) - 13:45
28 November: Wales v England (TBC) - 16:00
28 November: France v Italy (Stade de France) - 20:00
29 November: Ireland v Georgia (Aviva Stadium) - 14:00

Finals weekend
5 December: Georgia v TBC (Murrayfield) - 12:00
5 December: Ireland v TBC (Aviva Stadium) - 14:15
5 December: Wales v TBC (TBC) - 16:45
6 December: England v TBC (Twickenham) - 14:00
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Re: Autumn Nations Cup

Post by GETHIN EXILE » Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:48 pm

so there is a possibility that Scotland could play an "away" match at murrayfield if results go the wrong way for them

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Re: Autumn Nations Cup

Post by Chobbsy » Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:59 pm

Noggs wrote:
Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:20 am
Hopefully the following will be helpful to users:

Autumn Nations Cup 2020

This new international competition is between England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland, France, Italy, Fiji, and Georgia.

There will be two pools of four countries in the tournament.

Group A:
England, Ireland, Wales, and Georgia

Group B:
France, Scotland, Italy, and Fiji.

Each team will play the teams in their group once by the end of the third weekend.
Based on the group rankings coming into the final weekend, each team will face the team ranked in the same position in the opposite pool. This means the teams who come first in Group A and Group B will compete for first place, the teams who come second will compete for second place and so on.

All sixteen matches of the new tournament will be played over the four weekends from 13 November, 2020 to 6 December, 2020.

Round 1
13 November: Ireland v Wales (Aviva Stadium) - 19:00 (UK time)
14 November: Italy v Scotland (TBC) - 12:45
14 November: England v Georgia (Twickenham) - 15:00
15 November: France v Fiji (TBC) – TBC

Round 2
21 November: Italy v Fiji (TBC) - 12:45
21 November: England v Ireland (Twickenham) - 15:00
21 November: Wales v Georgia (TBC) - 17:15
22 November: Scotland v France (Murrayfield) - 15:00

Round 3
28 November: Scotland v Fiji (Murrayfield) - 13:45
28 November: Wales v England (TBC) - 16:00
28 November: France v Italy (Stade de France) - 20:00
29 November: Ireland v Georgia (Aviva Stadium) - 14:00

Finals weekend
5 December: Georgia v TBC (Murrayfield) - 12:00
5 December: Ireland v TBC (Aviva Stadium) - 14:15
5 December: Wales v TBC (TBC) - 16:45
6 December: England v TBC (Twickenham) - 14:00
Also 21 November: England v Ireland (Twickenham) - 15:00 will be followed by England v Ireland Women also at Twickenham
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Re: Autumn Nations Cup

Post by Bunchy » Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:57 pm

Thanks - that's a useful summary - did I read elsewhere that its broadcast on amazon TV?
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Re: Autumn Nations Cup

Post by kk20gb30 » Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:40 am

Bunchy wrote:
Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:57 pm
Thanks - that's a useful summary - did I read elsewhere that its broadcast on amazon TV?
...for the most part ; they do have live broadcast rights however terrestrial coverage is available through Channel 4 , with some live games , I believe.

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Re: Autumn Nations Cup

Post by ourla » Thu Nov 05, 2020 12:00 pm

France should walk their group.

Would have thought England will be strong enough even though it's a tough series of games.

Any Eng v Fra game at the moment is going to be difficult to call.
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Post by JP14 » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:58 pm

It will be interesting to see how France perform given that they will have to chop and change quite a few players.
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Re: Autumn Nations Cup

Post by SimonP in Surrey » Mon Nov 09, 2020 4:02 pm

Should be good litmus test for ENG after slightly disappointing ITA performance completing 6N. Chance to consider options for 8, 9, 12 and back 3. At 8 I would trying a faster lighter option than Billy V who hasn’t fully fired for a while for me so maybe another crack with Curry making (almost) a three flanker back row strategy. At 9, maybe start Robson with Ben on the bench. Ollie Lawrence is an obvious punt if we need power cover at 12 for injured (maybe/maybe not fully returning) Manu. Furbank yet to click, so I would pick Watson at 15 and checkout Thorley on the wing. Should ENG get through then FRA should be quite a tussle in the final.

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Re: Autumn Nations Cup

Post by Chobbsy » Mon Nov 09, 2020 4:30 pm

SimonP in Surrey wrote:
Mon Nov 09, 2020 4:02 pm
Should be good litmus test for ENG after slightly disappointing ITA performance completing 6N. Chance to consider options for 8, 9, 12 and back 3. At 8 I would trying a faster lighter option than Billy V who hasn’t fully fired for a while for me so maybe another crack with Curry making (almost) a three flanker back row strategy. At 9, maybe start Robson with Ben on the bench. Ollie Lawrence is an obvious punt if we need power cover at 12 for injured (maybe/maybe not fully returning) Manu. Furbank yet to click, so I would pick Watson at 15 and checkout Thorley on the wing. Should ENG get through then FRA should be quite a tussle in the final.
I maybe wrong but I thought Watson was injured
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Re: Autumn Nations Cup

Post by SimonP in Surrey » Mon Nov 09, 2020 4:40 pm

Good catch .. think you are right .. Watson injured .. maybe Jones will try Furbank once more

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Re: Autumn Nations Cup

Post by LE18 » Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:33 pm

SimonP in Surrey wrote:
Mon Nov 09, 2020 4:40 pm
Good catch .. think you are right .. Watson injured .. maybe Jones will try Furbank once more
He is planning playing 9 forwards, 8 in the pack and 1 on the wing.

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Re: Autumn Nations Cup

Post by sam16111986 » Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:18 pm

LE18 wrote:
Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:33 pm
SimonP in Surrey wrote:
Mon Nov 09, 2020 4:40 pm
Good catch .. think you are right .. Watson injured .. maybe Jones will try Furbank once more
He is planning playing 9 forwards, 8 in the pack and 1 on the wing.
He did say hybrid player could be at wing or at 10. Which I presume he meant as in defence they'd stand at 10 from set pieces, Farrell would wear 12 and manage the game. Play with sort of two wing/fullbacks. Dropping an extra flanker in to replace a winger but shore up the blindside defence could also work.

Bit of out the box thinking. Could make the game interesting.

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Re: Autumn Nations Cup

Post by kk20gb30 » Tue Nov 10, 2020 8:13 am

Interesting also to observe Wales with Defence Coach Byron Hayward now departed . A real upturn in performance is needed to prevent further questions on the appointment of Wayne Pivac as Welsh Head Coach.

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Re: Autumn Nations Cup

Post by SimonP in Surrey » Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:26 am

Surely Wales are due a kick-back bounce from the recent losses (maybe a passionate home battle with ENG) but then maybe the Warren Gatland / Shaun Edwards combo was even better then we thought. Wales have some great players so you really have to question how they are being coached and motivated under Pivac.

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Re: Autumn Nations Cup

Post by Chobbsy » Tue Nov 10, 2020 10:39 am

SimonP in Surrey wrote:
Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:26 am
Surely Wales are due a kick-back bounce from the recent losses (maybe a passionate home battle with ENG) but then maybe the Warren Gatland / Shaun Edwards combo was even better then we thought. Wales have some great players so you really have to question how they are being coached and motivated under Pivac.
They should beat Georgia, if they don't there really are problems there, we won't be playing them at Principality though
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