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England Training Squad announced

Post by Tigerbeat » Mon Oct 05, 2020 10:17 am

https://www.englandrugby.com/news/artic ... czNDU3MgS2

Just announced.
Joe Heyes included.

BACKS
Ali Crossdale, Saracens*
Elliot Daly, Saracens
Fraser Dingwall, Northampton Saints*
Nathan Earle, Harlequins*
Owen Farrell, Saracens
George Ford, Leicester Tigers
Piers Francis, Northampton Saints
George Furbank, Northampton Saints
Willi Heinz, Gloucester Rugby
Joe Marchant, Harlequins
Jonny May, Gloucester Rugby
Alex Mitchell, Northampton Saints*
Ollie Thorley, Gloucester Rugby*
Ben Youngs, Leicester Tigers
FORWARDS
Jack Clement, Gloucester Rugby*
Alex Dombrandt, Harlequins*
Ellis Genge, Leicester Tigers
Jamie George, Saracens
Joe Heyes, Leicester Tigers*
Maro Itoje, Saracens
Simon Kerrod, Harlequins*
Lewis Ludlow, Gloucester Rugby*
Alex Moon, Northampton Saints*
David Ribbans, Northampton Saints*
Jack Singleton, Gloucester Rugby
Billy Vunipola, Saracens
Mako Vunipola, Saracens
Mark Wilson, Newcastle Falcons
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Re: England Training Squad announced

Post by RagingBull » Mon Oct 05, 2020 10:24 am

Squad will look very different once the top 4 players are added

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Re: England Training Squad announced

Post by Leicestertinytiger » Mon Oct 05, 2020 10:25 am

Such an odd selection, I know plenty of players aren’t available but would have thought Ollie Lawrence, Ted Hill and Lewis Ludlam would have been in there.

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Re: England Training Squad announced

Post by BFG » Mon Oct 05, 2020 10:52 am

I wouldn't be surprised if they used the Italy match to cap some that qualify for Wales and Scotland.
I had heard that was a possibility with another before lockdown who qualified for SH nation.

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Re: England Training Squad announced

Post by RagingBull » Mon Oct 05, 2020 10:58 am

Worcester have a game too play still

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Re: England Training Squad announced

Post by JP14 » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:34 am

Expect a much changed squad as soon as the Prem is finished.
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Re: England Training Squad announced

Post by Leicestertinytiger » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:43 am

RagingBull wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 10:58 am
Worcester have a game too play still
Ah yes forgot. Apparently Ludlam as well not included as he is self-isolating after having played Sale.

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Re: England Training Squad announced

Post by Tiglon » Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:06 pm

Leicestertinytiger wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 10:25 am
Such an odd selection, I know plenty of players aren’t available but would have thought Ollie Lawrence, Ted Hill and Lewis Ludlam would have been in there.
It's just a 3 day training camp. Jones wants to look at some players he has never worked with and test them against the first choice players that are available this week.

Half of these players will be nowhere near the Italy game.

I wouldn't read too much into many of the selections, but does maybe suggest that Dan Cole is no longer required.

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Re: England Training Squad announced

Post by sam16111986 » Mon Oct 05, 2020 1:01 pm

BFG wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 10:52 am
I wouldn't be surprised if they used the Italy match to cap some that qualify for Wales and Scotland.
I had heard that was a possibility with another before lockdown who qualified for SH nation.
Yep if say there's a bit of that going on. Good chance to look at some players on the fringes and see what they are like in camp and point them on the path England want in terms of development.

Going back to the qualification point I wonder if Sheedy will get called up again as the third flyhalf on the squad. Get a go in one of the easier games and toe him down to England. Wales are apparently interested and I think he qualifies for Ireland as well.

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Re: England Training Squad announced

Post by Chobbsy » Mon Oct 05, 2020 1:02 pm

Tigerbeat wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 10:17 am
https://www.englandrugby.com/news/artic ... czNDU3MgS2

Just announced.
Joe Heyes included.

BACKS
Ali Crossdale, Saracens*
Elliot Daly, Saracens
Fraser Dingwall, Northampton Saints*
Nathan Earle, Harlequins*
Owen Farrell, Saracens
George Ford, Leicester Tigers
Piers Francis, Northampton Saints
George Furbank, Northampton Saints
Willi Heinz, Gloucester Rugby
Joe Marchant, Harlequins
Jonny May, Gloucester Rugby
Alex Mitchell, Northampton Saints*
Ollie Thorley, Gloucester Rugby*
Ben Youngs, Leicester Tigers
FORWARDS
Jack Clement, Gloucester Rugby*
Alex Dombrandt, Harlequins*
Ellis Genge, Leicester Tigers
Jamie George, Saracens
Joe Heyes, Leicester Tigers*
Maro Itoje, Saracens
Simon Kerrod, Harlequins*
Lewis Ludlow, Gloucester Rugby*
Alex Moon, Northampton Saints*
David Ribbans, Northampton Saints*
Jack Singleton, Gloucester Rugby
Billy Vunipola, Saracens
Mako Vunipola, Saracens
Mark Wilson, Newcastle Falcons
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Re: England Training Squad announced

Post by BFG » Mon Oct 05, 2020 1:40 pm

sam16111986 wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 1:01 pm
BFG wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 10:52 am
I wouldn't be surprised if they used the Italy match to cap some that qualify for Wales and Scotland.
I had heard that was a possibility with another before lockdown who qualified for SH nation.
Yep if say there's a bit of that going on. Good chance to look at some players on the fringes and see what they are like in camp and point them on the path England want in terms of development.

Going back to the qualification point I wonder if Sheedy will get called up again as the third flyhalf on the squad. Get a go in one of the easier games and toe him down to England. Wales are apparently interested and I think he qualifies for Ireland as well.
Yes it's on the agenda after the Tomkins thing and Pivac has been seen at so many Prem matches it's reckoned he could have a doppleganger.
I'd pick Sheedy but I'm not sure Eddie's boss Owen would.

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Re: England Training Squad announced

Post by Ian Cant » Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:10 pm

My fear was that Freddie Steward (Tigers’ need him to start v Gloucester) would be in the squad though he would have deserved his selection along with Quins’ Morris who has looked in great form every time I’ve seen him play!
Heyes will hopefully have his confidence restored as for some reason he hasn’t moved on after Lockdown!

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Re: England Training Squad announced

Post by RagingBull » Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:17 pm

Why would he move on?
Name another 21 year old tighthead with nearly 50 caps?
Played more games than Painter who is a year older.

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Re: England Training Squad announced

Post by GB72 » Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:40 pm

I read that as 'moved on' as in developed as a player rather than change clubs.

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Re: England Training Squad announced

Post by RagingBull » Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:24 pm

Ah re-reading it I get it now.
Doesn't help that he's been playing with the B team pack on the whole.
But he's still young.

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