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Re: Ringfencing almost upon us ?

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TigerBoy1880 wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 4:47 pm
OakhamTiger32 wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 4:22 pm
TigerBoy1880 wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:25 pm 2 points

1. Now this decision has been made during the season, you may find Gloucester and Worcester throwing the youngsters in as they now have nothing to play for. This means other teams will probably get a better result than when they played full strength teams. If ring fencing has been brought in for fairness, how this fair?

2. Gloucester, Worcester and Bath may as well loan their best players to Ealing 😂
Perhaps it will mean we can spend the rest of this season developing our squad, tactics & attacking structure, while bringing on a few of our own youngsters such as Martin, Henderson, Chessum & JvP without the pressure of relegation. We have made a much better start to this season, the signs are promising and it's the West Country boys that are propping up the table at the bottom not us. I think both Bath and Glos seem to be going in the opposite direction to us and without wholesale changes they are in real trouble.

Nobody wants to finish bottom of the pile and perhaps giving their youngsters some game time will bring better results than fielding some of the slightly 'past their best Internationals' that just aren't cutting it anymore. Bath and Glos have been, as far as I'm aware, fielding almost full strength teams so far and have been getting thumped. Can't get much worse with the youngsters can it? :smt017

Ultimately I think it's the right call imho. Pressure is off now so please can we see some more ball in hand attacking play, better attacking structure, less aimless kicking and work on regularly pushing for a top 4 spot again soon.
It’s not all about us though is it? There’s 11 other teams in the league.
I'm struggling to understand your point here? :smt017

Clearly it's not all about us but quite frankly Tigers are the only team I'm really interested in. Player safety and people's health is another matter and that is extremely important no matter what club you support but as far as getting the most from what is now a dead rubber of a season (European qualification aside), building for the future, developing our youngsters and coming back and mounting a serious challenge next season.. well that is about us and that's what I'm hoping for given this announcement.

So yes, there are 11 other teams in the league but my post was about how we as a club, the players and the coaches now treat the remainder of this season and how we continue to rebuild..
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Scott1 wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 5:51 pm “ The new structure has unanimous support of the Premiership Rugby clubs”

That is completely different to all clubs unanimously voting for the changes.
True but if they are all in agreement, why would they vote differently?
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Are any rules going to be introduced to stop all teams manipulating the final standings for the play offs and Europe by selecting weakened teams in certain fixtures?
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TigerBoy1880 wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:00 pm
Scott1 wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 5:51 pm “ The new structure has unanimous support of the Premiership Rugby clubs”

That is completely different to all clubs unanimously voting for the changes.
True but if they are all in agreement, why would they vote differently?
Not sure but it’s not as if they would’ve released a statement saying all clubs are in support of the new changes except such and such who voted against it.
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Whilst there is no threat of relegation, there is still top 4 and top 6 to play for. Champions Cup or Challenge Cup for next season?
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Tigerbeat wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:29 pm Whilst there is no threat of relegation, there is still top 4 and top 6 to play for. Champions Cup or Challenge Cup for next season?
I’ll let you know after tomorrow 😉
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TigerBoy1880 wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:00 pm
Scott1 wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 5:51 pm “ The new structure has unanimous support of the Premiership Rugby clubs”

That is completely different to all clubs unanimously voting for the changes.
True but if they are all in agreement, why would they vote differently?
Perhaps the counting was done by those in charge of the Salary Cap.... :smt005
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TigerBoy1880 wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:25 pm 2 points

1. Now this decision has been made during the season, you may find Gloucester and Worcester throwing the youngsters in as they now have nothing to play for. This means other teams will probably get a better result than when they played full strength teams. If ring fencing has been brought in for fairness, how this fair?

2. Gloucester, Worcester and Bath may as well loan their best players to Ealing 😂
Point 1 why would they do this, it makes no sense, they still want to be competitive and they are paying the players
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Wayne Richardson Fan Club wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:36 pm
TigerBoy1880 wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:00 pm
Scott1 wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 5:51 pm “ The new structure has unanimous support of the Premiership Rugby clubs”

That is completely different to all clubs unanimously voting for the changes.
True but if they are all in agreement, why would they vote differently?
Perhaps the counting was done by those in charge of the Salary Cap.... :smt005
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All games matter and no one will want to start next season with morale low because of poor results: we’ve been there and are still struggling.
Give every game your best shot!
Secondly, apart from the rich clubs everyone else will want to get fans back and hopefully get some new ones!
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daktari wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:40 pm
TigerBoy1880 wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:25 pm 2 points

1. Now this decision has been made during the season, you may find Gloucester and Worcester throwing the youngsters in as they now have nothing to play for. This means other teams will probably get a better result than when they played full strength teams. If ring fencing has been brought in for fairness, how this fair?

2. Gloucester, Worcester and Bath may as well loan their best players to Ealing 😂
Point 1 why would they do this, it makes no sense, they still want to be competitive and they are paying the players
The same reason we played a fair few youngsters once Saracens were relegated.
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TigerBoy1880 wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:39 pm
daktari wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:40 pm
TigerBoy1880 wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:25 pm 2 points

1. Now this decision has been made during the season, you may find Gloucester and Worcester throwing the youngsters in as they now have nothing to play for. This means other teams will probably get a better result than when they played full strength teams. If ring fencing has been brought in for fairness, how this fair?

2. Gloucester, Worcester and Bath may as well loan their best players to Ealing 😂
Point 1 why would they do this, it makes no sense, they still want to be competitive and they are paying the players
The same reason we played a fair few youngsters once Saracens were relegated.
But I’m not sure that’s what did do, we played the youngsters when the season restarted as SB was using it as preseason for this year. Why would a team want to finish bottom even if they can’t be relegated- you have to think the clubs have some pride
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Scrapping relegation makes perfect sense under the circumstances.Really hope however that fixtures remain meaningful in the eyes of all clubs and a season of genuine competition remains a priority.
The future however for those below The Premiership does not look great however ; realistically just who will be capable of gatecrashing The Premiership top table.We could be looking at a closed shop in all but name in the not too distant .......
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What if the championship season doesn't happen?

Who decides which side gets promoted? All sides can claim they would have won the league!
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Look at last night,Gloc turn up without the pressure of relegation and Bath get a TBP win at Sale. Does it have anything to do with relegation being scrapped? Too early to tell but those who are trotting the meaningless games line just sit back ,if last nights anything to go by we could be in for a treat!
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