Ringfencing NOW upon us ?

[TigerBoy1880]

The 4-2 agreement would have no legs in a legal case. For a start there could be a case where clubs have had more games cancelled and lost/won more points than others. Then there’s the nature of the games cancelled,Chiefs away or LI at home etc. You could play games even with Covid cases but without your best players who are ill/isolating etc. Like I said it won’t happen.

So teams will have a legal case when they don’t win the league then.

Yes,of course. Like I said the best thing to do would be to void the league this season and repeat it. Or have an * next to the champions.

So why are we only hearing from people about scrapping relegation but not people saying we shouldn’t have Champions then?

[Scott1]

So teams will have a legal case when they don’t win the league then.

Yes,of course. Like I said the best thing to do would be to void the league this season and repeat it. Or have an * next to the champions.

So why are we only hearing from people about scrapping relegation but not people saying we shouldn’t have Champions then?

Probably because 1 team goes down but 4 get into the playoffs maybe

[TigerBoy1880]

Yes,of course. Like I said the best thing to do would be to void the league this season and repeat it. Or have an * next to the champions.

So why are we only hearing from people about scrapping relegation but not people saying we shouldn’t have Champions then?

Probably because 1 team goes down but 4 get into the playoffs maybe

Some teams could miss out on the top 4 though through the 4-2 system. Whether it’s 1 team or 4, the same theory applies

[Scott1]

So why are we only hearing from people about scrapping relegation but not people saying we shouldn’t have Champions then?

Probably because 1 team goes down but 4 get into the playoffs maybe

Some teams could miss out on the top 4 though through the 4-2 system. Whether it’s 1 team or 4, the same theory applies

Yes they could,I’ve said it more than once now that the league should be voided. But I can’t see that happening because of Sarries. Do you do this on purpose mate?

[TigerBoy1880]

Probably because 1 team goes down but 4 get into the playoffs maybe

Some teams could miss out on the top 4 though through the 4-2 system. Whether it’s 1 team or 4, the same theory applies

Yes they could,I’ve said it more than once now that the league should be voided. But I can’t see that happening because of Sarries. Do you do this on purpose mate?

I’m just making a valid point. It’s all over the media about ring fencing but nothing is mentioned about winning the league. Can I not question that or is it only what you say goes?

[Scott1]

There’s a MASSIVE difference between 1 club going down and potentially going under and 4 possible play off places,can you not see that? And why havnt you mentioned RCC qualification? Surely that’s not fair either if a team misses out.

[Cardiff Tig]

The clubs have an incredibly weak legal case. They all choose to play in the competition and that means agreeing to the competition rules at the start. You can't then just complain at the end when it doesn't go your way.

Why do you think that none of the cancelled games were played in the enforced European break - it would be against the league rules and open the PRL up to a legal challenge by the relegated club.

[Scott1]

Can’t compare a knockout competition with a league one which could have serious ramifications for the relegated team.

[Cardiff Tig]

I'm not comparing the competitions.

I'm saying there was a reason that the league games that were cancelled couldn't be replayed in the 2 weekends thay suddenly became available.

If BT are against ring fencing it won't happen. Simple as that. At least 7 clubs that almost certainly have no chance of being relegated this year won't risk having to pay millions in compensation over the survival of a rival.

[Scott1]

I'm not comparing the competitions.

I'm saying there was a reason that the league games that were cancelled couldn't be replayed in the 2 weekends thay suddenly became available.

If BT are against ring fencing it won't happen. Simple as that. At least 7 clubs that almost certainly have no chance of being relegated this year won't risk having to pay millions in compensation over the survival of a rival.

An agreement will be reached even if it’s for just this season.

[Wayne Richardson Fan Club]

When it happens it should be with the provision clubs get in a better financial situation (non Covid wise) at present it's all built of a house of cards money wise.

[ourla]

I understand the broadcasters concerns but equally they have to understand the situation. Which of these Championship clubs realistically are capable of turning themselves into competitive Prem Clubs:

Ealing
Pirates
Coventry
Ampthill
Nottingham
Jersey
Bedford
Scottish
Doncaster
Hartpury
Richmond

None have ground capacity of more than 5,000, a big fan/player base, etc. that I can see. Yorkshire is the big hole geographically in the Prem make up but Carnegie got relegated and I don't think Doncaster can step up.

The teams in the Prem now seem well set and if you get Sarries back in there and fans back in the stadiums and it should be a great product regardless of having no relegation.

I don't think it is going to help anyone having one of the 13 being relegated and then walking the Championship each year.

[GETHIN EXILE]

I understand the broadcasters concerns but equally they have to understand the situation. Which of these Championship clubs realistically are capable of turning themselves into competitive Prem Clubs:

Ealing
Pirates
Coventry
Ampthill
Nottingham
Jersey
Bedford
Scottish
Doncaster
Hartpury
Richmond

None have ground capacity of more than 5,000, a big fan/player base, etc. that I can see. Yorkshire is the big hole geographically in the Prem make up but Carnegie got relegated and I don't think Doncaster can step up.

The teams in the Prem now seem well set and if you get Sarries back in there and fans back in the stadiums and it should be a great product regardless of having no relegation.

I don't think it is going to help anyone having one of the 13 being relegated and then walking the Championship each year.

Sarries do not have a large enough ground capacity without temporary stands or rebuilding neither do they have a big enough fan base either so realistically they should have to be re-assessed for suitability before being allowed to return.

[ourla]

Sarries do not have a large enough ground capacity without temporary stands or rebuilding neither do they have a big enough fan base either so realistically they should have to be re-assessed for suitability before being allowed to return.

They have an adequate ground for their general needs and plenty of other options for bigger games.

Their attendance for standard home matches is at least as good as Sharks and Worcester.

By any measure I believe Saracens are up to par for the Prem.

[TigerBoy1880]

I understand the broadcasters concerns but equally they have to understand the situation. Which of these Championship clubs realistically are capable of turning themselves into competitive Prem Clubs:

Ealing
Pirates
Coventry
Ampthill
Nottingham
Jersey
Bedford
Scottish
Doncaster
Hartpury
Richmond

None have ground capacity of more than 5,000, a big fan/player base, etc. that I can see. Yorkshire is the big hole geographically in the Prem make up but Carnegie got relegated and I don't think Doncaster can step up.

The teams in the Prem now seem well set and if you get Sarries back in there and fans back in the stadiums and it should be a great product regardless of having no relegation.

I don't think it is going to help anyone having one of the 13 being relegated and then walking the Championship each year.

They can ground share.