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Lions were also all vaccinated, and it’s hoped that they will be fully inoculated by the Jersey training camp. A smart decision in my opinion.
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Update on Boks squad on the BBC:

“South Africa will name a 45-strong squad for the series on 5 June”.

Erasmus has also, unsurprisingly, name-checked our own Jasper Wiese.
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Re: Who’s your pick for Lions 2021

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All this time since the squad and I still cannot believe they picked Harris. I was once told your most threatening player should, ideally, be at 13, well Harris carries almost no threat.

Players better who qualify
Joseph
Ringrose
Davies
Slade
Piers O Connor
Marchant
Lawrence

Given the Lions need to world class below are the other players in the Prem who are better;

Radrandra- to be fair the best in the world
Rona
Moroni

If Harris was English he would not even have an international cap.

Sorry rant over- still baffled.
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Tigers86asw wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 10:19 pm All this time since the squad and I still cannot believe they picked Harris. I was once told your most threatening player should, ideally, be at 13, well Harris carries almost no threat.

Players better who qualify
Joseph
Ringrose
Davies
Slade
Piers O Connor
Marchant
Lawrence

Given the Lions need to world class below are the other players in the Prem who are better;

Radrandra- to be fair the best in the world
Rona
Moroni

If Harris was English he would not even have an international cap.

Sorry rant over- still baffled.
100% agree, and the same with Ali Price.
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I find it baffling people continuously fail to recognise that Harris is one of the best defensive centres in the Northern Hemisphere. :smt017

He injured his hand last night against Irish, people think Slade will be the replacement if needed but I reckon it could actually be Manu.
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JP14 wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 9:23 am I find it baffling people continuously fail to recognise that Harris is one of the best defensive centres in the Northern Hemisphere. :smt017

He injured his hand last night against Irish, people think Slade will be the replacement if needed but I reckon it could actually be Manu.
I'm guessing trying not to get onto a divisive topic too much. I suspect that being vaccinated may be part of the visa requirements of this tour, meaning that Slade may likely be ineligible.
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JP14 wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 9:23 am I find it baffling people continuously fail to recognise that Harris is one of the best defensive centres in the Northern Hemisphere. :smt017

He injured his hand last night against Irish, people think Slade will be the replacement if needed but I reckon it could actually be Manu.
My point is not that he isn’t a good defensive player it is that when you are trying to build a world class side in 8 weeks I would not be picking a 13 for their defence when they offer so little in attack.

A 12, possibly, but not a 13. At international level I think it is a limited mindset.
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I have to agree with that.
Being the best defensive 13 IMO means little at International level.
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RagingBull wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 11:42 am I have to agree with that.
Being the best defensive 13 IMO means little at International level.
Not when it was a big part of Scotland winning away in France and stopping les Bleus from stealing the title. We have seen at Tigers how well a great defender at 13 in Moroni works, yes Moroni's attack is just as good, but it's not like Harris can't score tries.
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TigerFeetSteve wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 9:50 am
JP14 wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 9:23 am I find it baffling people continuously fail to recognise that Harris is one of the best defensive centres in the Northern Hemisphere. :smt017

He injured his hand last night against Irish, people think Slade will be the replacement if needed but I reckon it could actually be Manu.
I'm guessing trying not to get onto a divisive topic too much. I suspect that being vaccinated may be part of the visa requirements of this tour, meaning that Slade may likely be ineligible.
Well Slade was quick to "clarify" his comments...
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JP14 wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 11:57 am
RagingBull wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 11:42 am I have to agree with that.
Being the best defensive 13 IMO means little at International level.
Not when it was a big part of Scotland winning away in France and stopping les Bleus from stealing the title. We have seen at Tigers how well a great defender at 13 in Moroni works, yes Moroni's attack is just as good, but it's not like Harris can't score tries.
But the thing is balance.
Really who’s the attacking 12 that is in the squad that would balance him out?
Henshaw but even he is considered more the solid guy to Ringrose attacking threat.
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RagingBull wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 12:08 pm
JP14 wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 11:57 am
RagingBull wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 11:42 am I have to agree with that.
Being the best defensive 13 IMO means little at International level.
Not when it was a big part of Scotland winning away in France and stopping les Bleus from stealing the title. We have seen at Tigers how well a great defender at 13 in Moroni works, yes Moroni's attack is just as good, but it's not like Harris can't score tries.
But the thing is balance.
Really who’s the attacking 12 that is in the squad that would balance him out?
Henshaw but even he is considered more the solid guy to Ringrose attacking threat.
The Lions starting 13 should not be selected mainly because of his defensive attributes. Injuries to North, Davies and Manu have really left a hole. Whilst I’d never wish injury on anyone, maybe one of the latter two will earn a call up. Otherwise the best attacking option might be Daly.
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Centre depth is weak admittedly. But I still believe Harris deserves his call up.
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