Borthwick arrival

Baz · Post by **Baz** » Fri Mar 13, 2020 3:23 pm

This was in the Rugby Paper some time ago:

"The reason Steve Borthwick hasn’t joined Leicester Tigers yet.
Steve Borthwick’s move to Leicester has been delayed as the Tigers season continues to go downhill.
The 39-year-old’s anticipated move to Welford Road was expected to take place after the World Cup in Japan, where he worked as England forwards coach.
However, the move has gone quiet and according to The Rugby Paper this is due to Tigers failing to reach an agreement with the RFU. "

Anyone know the current status?

Mark62 · Post by **Mark62** » Fri Mar 13, 2020 3:28 pm

Baz wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 3:23 pm This was in the Rugby Paper some time ago:

"The reason Steve Borthwick hasn’t joined Leicester Tigers yet.
Steve Borthwick’s move to Leicester has been delayed as the Tigers season continues to go downhill.
The 39-year-old’s anticipated move to Welford Road was expected to take place after the World Cup in Japan, where he worked as England forwards coach.
However, the move has gone quiet and according to The Rugby Paper this is due to Tigers failing to reach an agreement with the RFU. "

Anyone know the current status?

His signing has been confirmed by the Tigers and Maro Itoje was filmed making a speech after the Wales game thanking him for all his work and wishing him all the best in his future role. I would be surprised if he wasn’t in situ very shortly

Chobbsy · Post by **Chobbsy** » Fri Mar 13, 2020 3:30 pm

Baz wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 3:23 pm This was in the Rugby Paper some time ago:

"The reason Steve Borthwick hasn’t joined Leicester Tigers yet.
Steve Borthwick’s move to Leicester has been delayed as the Tigers season continues to go downhill.
The 39-year-old’s anticipated move to Welford Road was expected to take place after the World Cup in Japan, where he worked as England forwards coach.
However, the move has gone quiet and according to The Rugby Paper this is due to Tigers failing to reach an agreement with the RFU. "

Anyone know the current status?

I asked someone in the know on Saturday and I was told he is still under contract with the RFU until after the tour to Japan in the summer

Mark62 · Post by **Mark62** » Fri Mar 13, 2020 3:37 pm

Chobbsy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 3:30 pm
Baz wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 3:23 pm This was in the Rugby Paper some time ago:

"The reason Steve Borthwick hasn’t joined Leicester Tigers yet.
Steve Borthwick’s move to Leicester has been delayed as the Tigers season continues to go downhill.
The 39-year-old’s anticipated move to Welford Road was expected to take place after the World Cup in Japan, where he worked as England forwards coach.
However, the move has gone quiet and according to The Rugby Paper this is due to Tigers failing to reach an agreement with the RFU. "

Anyone know the current status?
I asked someone in the know on Saturday and I was told he is still under contract with the RFU until after the tour to Japan in the summer

I don’t know how in the know your contact is Chobbsy but he was never going to Japan

strawclearer · Post by **strawclearer** » Fri Mar 13, 2020 4:12 pm

The Rugby Paper's supposition refers to "Tigers failing..." - an implicit suggestion that the delay is somehow our fault.

I don't believe that's accurate.

Dangerous4 · Post by **Dangerous4** » Fri Mar 13, 2020 5:41 pm

I very much doubt that his arrival here is in doubt.

wellstiger · Post by **wellstiger** » Sat Mar 14, 2020 7:28 am

No news - good news.
Come on its Tigers................ We're always the last to hear anything. "Open" and "Transparent"
I think the operative words in The Rugby Paper segment "Tigers------ Failing" rings right at present

Is he having a "Well deserved break after 6N"?
Relocating?
Or more sinister the terms of working compromised?

loretta · Post by **loretta** » Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:36 am

wellstiger wrote: ↑Sat Mar 14, 2020 7:28 am No news - good news.
Come on its Tigers................ We're always the last to hear anything. "Open" and "Transparent"
I think the operative words in The Rugby Paper segment "Tigers------ Failing" rings right at present

Is he having a "Well deserved break after 6N"?
Relocating?
Or more sinister the terms of working compromised?

Perhaps he's got a cough.

wellstiger · Post by **wellstiger** » Sat Mar 14, 2020 9:49 am

or - Is he still contacted for the 6N which is "on hold"

Come on press office - give us a clue..............

Mark62 · Post by **Mark62** » Sat Mar 14, 2020 11:48 am

Pretty sure that the quote is from an old article from pre 6 nations

strawclearer · Post by **strawclearer** » Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:22 pm

Mark62 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 14, 2020 11:48 am Pretty sure that the quote is from an old article from pre 6 nations

...and the implication that the delay was our fault was wrong then too!

Tiglon · Post by **Tiglon** » Sat Mar 14, 2020 5:00 pm

strawclearer wrote: ↑Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:22 pm
Mark62 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 14, 2020 11:48 am Pretty sure that the quote is from an old article from pre 6 nations
...and the implication that the delay was our fault was wrong then too!

It doesn't mention fault at all, just that Tigers had failed to reach an agreement. I.e. had not reached an agreement.

They wanted to reach an agreement, but did not, so they failed to do so.

Anyway, old news and probably irrelevant now. Whether he joins next week or after the tour to Japan that may or may not happen won't make much difference.

Baz · Post by **Baz** » Sun Mar 15, 2020 12:38 pm

Anyone following "The Next Level", the U-Tube series on the England squad, will have seen the emotional farewell between Steve Borthwick and the England players immediately after the England-Wales match. It's suggestive of two things; 1) Borthwick's time with England is over, and 2) that England have called "time" on this year's 6N.

Tiglon · Post by **Tiglon** » Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:29 pm

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugby ... y-May.html

Borthwick apparently handed in his six month notice in November, so will probably be starting at Tigers some time in May.

JP14 · Post by **JP14** » Sun Mar 15, 2020 2:56 pm

That’s good news regardless of Covid-19.

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