Very in the know :) actually, but I never said he was going to Japan I said his contract is until after the Japan tour and they are trying to sort that outMark62 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 3:37 pmI don’t know how in the know your contact is Chobbsy but he was never going to JapanChobbsy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 3:30 pmI asked someone in the know on Saturday and I was told he is still under contract with the RFU until after the tour to Japan in the summerBaz wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 3:23 pm This was in the Rugby Paper some time ago:
"The reason Steve Borthwick hasn’t joined Leicester Tigers yet.
Steve Borthwick’s move to Leicester has been delayed as the Tigers season continues to go downhill.
The 39-year-old’s anticipated move to Welford Road was expected to take place after the World Cup in Japan, where he worked as England forwards coach.
However, the move has gone quiet and according to The Rugby Paper this is due to Tigers failing to reach an agreement with the RFU. "
Anyone know the current status?
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Fair enough but that now seems to have been superseded by the report that he gave his 6 months notice in November thus making him available from May.Chobbsy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:11 amVery in the know :) actually, but I never said he was going to Japan I said his contract is until after the Japan tour and they are trying to sort that out
Still I have a feeling its all going to be irrelevant this season anyway
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This on BBC Sport:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/52269494
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/52269494
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Confirmed by Tigers 1 July. Depending on what happen with this season he may get a game or two to experiment before next season starts.
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On a positive - the speculation is now put to bed.
Irrespective of how/when this season ends (Covid-19) the process gets under way and implementations get us ready for a flying start to 2021/2022.
Welcome aboard Stevie B.
Irrespective of how/when this season ends (Covid-19) the process gets under way and implementations get us ready for a flying start to 2021/2022.
Welcome aboard Stevie B.
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One thing that will take some getting used to is seeing Borthwick in Tigers gear, that might bend the mind.
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Focussing purely on coaching (i.e. not recruitment, 'vision', club structure which should be the role of other people), what are the specific quick wins which will significantly improve our performance on the pitch?
Line-out seems an obvious one.
Line-out seems an obvious one.
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Agree.The Line-Out has to be one of the first ports of call.Should we get this facet of the game fully functional in combination with Scrum and Maul there will be countless opportunities created.Old school can still be very effective and with strength here the pressure should ease on the backs having to perform..Simplistic, yes ; but potent - if we can get it right.
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Hopefully he will end the persistent and aimless practice of kicking the ball away. We will have more in attack than one out runners. We will have more than one way to play. We can keep hold of the ball in contact and we don't run away from support get isolated and turned over. That would be transformational
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Agreed - small increments
1/ Functioning lineout
2/ Support play
3/ Heads up rugby
The defence was better than last season. Blooded youngsters this season.
Attack will come with the above three increments. They are fixable.....
Likewise seeing Stevie B in tiger stripes rather than Barff hoops or Sarries black will be one to Savour and digest.
Come on Stevie B....
1/ Functioning lineout
2/ Support play
3/ Heads up rugby
The defence was better than last season. Blooded youngsters this season.
Attack will come with the above three increments. They are fixable.....
Likewise seeing Stevie B in tiger stripes rather than Barff hoops or Sarries black will be one to Savour and digest.
Come on Stevie B....
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Completely agree regarding the lineout, but you have to wonder, with the experience that we've had at lock, Lavanini, Spencer, Green etc why it hasn't been functioning. I guess that will be Borthwick's task as well. I kept hearing that Green was one of the best lineout operators, particularly on opposition ball, where he was the top stealer last season (I think). That doesn't seem to have translated across to Tigers so far. I get that the lineout is made up of many components, call, throw, timing, lift, jump, catch etc but you'd think that the experience we have would have been able to sort that out.
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Defence. This has got better but can still be improved a lot more. I hate our drift defence, there’s no need for it. Go back to basics. When the backs line up, your opposite player is your man and your responsibility. Having watched the 2 Euro finals on Sunday, these were 2 games where we didn’t concede a try in either match and Healey said that with 5 minutes to go, Tigers players knew they weren’t going to concede a try so knew the games were won with 5 minutes to go. Get this right and we will be in the top 4.
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Cant always use blitz defence ,especially if you are not numbered up. If your winger or last man on the outside hasnt bit in and dropped back then you have to use the drift defence using the touchline as a defender. Blitz is in its best form when you are lined up defending multiphase then you can use it to your advantage with aggressiveness and you can get your 13 to rush up first and keep the ball infield.to try and force a mistake. The art of good defence is seamlessly transitioning between the two and having good communication, that's why Allen and guys like Brad Barritt are gold dust!
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I am certain that Steve will have a say in new recruitment, and mention a few names of players he feels would fit his style of play.
Best of luck Steve.
Best of luck Steve.
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I'm not particularly qualified to say so but I'd agree with this. It's horses for courses.Scott1 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 12:44 pm Cant always use blitz defence ,especially if you are not numbered up. If your winger or last man on the outside hasnt bit in and dropped back then you have to use the drift defence using the touchline as a defender. Blitz is in its best form when you are lined up defending multiphase then you can use it to your advantage with aggressiveness and you can get your 13 to rush up first and keep the ball infield.to try and force a mistake. The art of good defence is seamlessly transitioning between the two and having good communication, that's why Allen and guys like Brad Barritt are gold dust!