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Re: Saints away - Saturday 30th November

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We might be better off getting relegated...

After last weekend, you could almost believe that a corner had been turned.....
To win is not as important as playing with style!
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Re: Saints away - Saturday 30th November

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BigDan50 wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:54 pm As I said ages ago, we will never progress as long as the Young brothers, Ford father and son and the Tuillagi family cartel who have the ear of Ben Kay are with the club.
They wanted Murphy as coach so that they could dictate tactics etc to him as he has never had the strength of will or the coaching talent to oppose them.
Time to rid the club of all of them and start again.
Tigers have become a laughingstock.

I did wonder where Ben Kay's ear had gone, good to know you've spotted it! I was delayed today and only caught the last twenty minutes. Did we have any meaningful possession in that time? NO! Why not? Because we kicked it away - badly, spilled it, got turned over etc etc. It was embarrassing and I'm off to the bookies to put a sizeable bet on which team will be relegated this season, and it ain't Sarries.
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Re: Saints away - Saturday 30th November

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Wayne Richardson Fan Club wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:14 pm We might be better off getting relegated...

After last weekend, you could almost believe that a corner had been turned.....
I have friends at Cardiff and their woes are even worse than ours! A win there counts nothing in the real world.
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Re: Saints away - Saturday 30th November

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fentiger wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2019 6:16 pm
Wayne Richardson Fan Club wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2019 6:11 pm We actually appear to be a worse side with our big name players in it..& we were only missing 2 of what could be argued our best XV.

It's the constant limp defeats that drag you down.
Agreed. Ben Youngs in particular is, as usual, rubbish in a Tigers shirt. And before anyone says he was getting slow ball, no, he actually wasn't. He was slowing it down and kicking poorly especially straight to their enormous winger (can't spell so won't try :smt044 ). Do we still assume that he and his brother in tandem have a stranglehold on the club :smt017
Spot on. I mean why why why...would you continually kick the ball aimlessly down field straight to their Fijian unit who eats metres for breakfast, lunch and dinner ? A mis kick I get, but not 7 or 8 times...the same kick when touch was the easy option. Ben Youngs...not played above 6/10 in the shirt for a while now. Something is up. All players saying the right things but doing something different on the field. It’s as if they’re sending a message ....hmmm
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Re: Saints away - Saturday 30th November

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westwinds31 wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:28 pm
Spot on. I mean why why why...would you continually kick the ball aimlessly down field straight to their Fijian unit who eats metres for breakfast, lunch and dinner ? A mis kick I get, but not 7 or 8 times...the same kick when touch was the easy option. Ben Youngs...not played above 6/10 in the shirt for a while now. Something is up. All players saying the right things but doing something different on the field. It’s as if they’re sending a message ....hmmm
I assumed that was he (and the rest of the players who kicked similarly) was told to do by the coaches.
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Re: Saints away - Saturday 30th November

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drc_007 wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:00 pm
westwinds31 wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:28 pm
Spot on. I mean why why why...would you continually kick the ball aimlessly down field straight to their Fijian unit who eats metres for breakfast, lunch and dinner ? A mis kick I get, but not 7 or 8 times...the same kick when touch was the easy option. Ben Youngs...not played above 6/10 in the shirt for a while now. Something is up. All players saying the right things but doing something different on the field. It’s as if they’re sending a message ....hmmm
I assumed that was he (and the rest of the players who kicked similarly) was told to do by the coaches.
Yeah kick to their back 3 who are on fire this season. Even if they did, as a seasoned international, you’d soon realise that it wasn’t working and instead get the ball off the field. If I can spot it from my sofa, they can on the pitch.

I’m still fuming....the Saints try from the scrum in the first half. So so easy, Reinach picks it and runs, Wells doesn’t get there...why would he he’s a lock playing blind side !! Simple line from Proctor...not a finger laid on anyone. Pathetic.
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Been back home now for a couple of hours, only just plucked up courage to post how embarrassed I was sitting watching that terrible terrible performance. I tried shouting the boys on for the first 20 mins or so but became more and more perplexed by the terrible errors we made until I finally gave up shouting. How can anyone cheer, or try to, encourage a team so brainless as that?
I posted before the game that we had to beware their speedy backs, one of our happy clappers assured me we had speedy backs, absolutely not. Saints tore us to pieces, we kicked everything back to them and literally said, here have another go we dont know what to do with it. They were not just quick, but also jinked or dummied us all too easily.
Someone mentioned clowns for coaches, so who was that clown who came out after the game with his measuring wheel, placed cones in the deadball area and had 3 of our subs running up and down like idiots, What was all that about? He should have been publicly flogging our starters.
Saints supporters I talked to were generally kind with their sympathetic concerns as to the depths we have reached, they have been there and know what it's like!
Sad to say it but I cannot find anything kind to say about our players, I wonder whether the usual happy clappers will?
So embarrassed today at our lack of skills, poor kicking and everything in general! :smt022
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LE18 wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:08 pm Been back home now for a couple of hours, only just plucked up courage to post how embarrassed I was sitting watching that terrible terrible performance. I tried shouting the boys on for the first 20 mins or so but became more and more perplexed by the terrible errors we made until I finally gave up shouting. How can anyone cheer, or try to, encourage a team so brainless as that?
I posted before the game that we had to beware their speedy backs, one of our happy clappers assured me we had speedy backs, absolutely not. Saints tore us to pieces, we kicked everything back to them and literally said, here have another go we dont know what to do with it. They were not just quick, but also jinked or dummied us all too easily.
Someone mentioned clowns for coaches, so who was that clown who came out after the game with his measuring wheel, placed cones in the deadball area and had 3 of our subs running up and down like idiots, What was all that about? He should have been publicly flogging our starters.
Saints supporters I talked to were generally kind with their sympathetic concerns as to the depths we have reached, they have been there and know what it's like!
Sad to say it but I cannot find anything kind to say about our players, I wonder whether the usual happy clappers will?
So embarrassed today at our lack of skills, poor kicking and everything in general! :smt022
I tip my hat to you for going. Hearing the “who the hell are Leicester Tigers...” chants and “can we play you every week” ....not great
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Re: Saints away - Saturday 30th November

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Extraordinary to think that Tigers had 1/3rd of the England WC Final team on the field today and all of them (with the possible exception of George Ford) were invisible. Who shaped the game Ben Youngs or Grayson?

I do feel sorry for Murphy, but he is so clearly so far out of his depth. Nothing is getting any better. In fact things are probably worse this year than they were last year, because we have had a proper pre-season.

I predict Sarrries will overtake is around Feb 25th and that will be it. Last one to leave, please turn the.................
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Re: Saints away - Saturday 30th November

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LE18 wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:08 pm Been back home now for a couple of hours, only just plucked up courage to post how embarrassed I was sitting watching that terrible terrible performance. I tried shouting the boys on for the first 20 mins or so but became more and more perplexed by the terrible errors we made until I finally gave up shouting. How can anyone cheer, or try to, encourage a team so brainless as that?
I posted before the game that we had to beware their speedy backs, one of our happy clappers assured me we had speedy backs, absolutely not. Saints tore us to pieces, we kicked everything back to them and literally said, here have another go we dont know what to do with it. They were not just quick, but also jinked or dummied us all too easily.
Someone mentioned clowns for coaches, so who was that clown who came out after the game with his measuring wheel, placed cones in the deadball area and had 3 of our subs running up and down like idiots, What was all that about? He should have been publicly flogging our starters.
Saints supporters I talked to were generally kind with their sympathetic concerns as to the depths we have reached, they have been there and know what it's like!
Sad to say it but I cannot find anything kind to say about our players, I wonder whether the usual happy clappers will?
So embarrassed today at our lack of skills, poor kicking and everything in general! :smt022
It was me who posted that we have quick backs. I would hardly call any of our backs slow, what they were today was abject and flat footed.
I am not a happy clapper, rather an optimist but as I have posted numerous times today I cannot find anything to be pleased about tonight, so please don’t tar everyone with the same brush, and look at what is said before typing
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Re: Saints away - Saturday 30th November

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westwinds31 wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:28 pm
fentiger wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2019 6:16 pm
Wayne Richardson Fan Club wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2019 6:11 pm We actually appear to be a worse side with our big name players in it..& we were only missing 2 of what could be argued our best XV.

It's the constant limp defeats that drag you down.
Agreed. Ben Youngs in particular is, as usual, rubbish in a Tigers shirt. And before anyone says he was getting slow ball, no, he actually wasn't. He was slowing it down and kicking poorly especially straight to their enormous winger (can't spell so won't try :smt044 ). Do we still assume that he and his brother in tandem have a stranglehold on the club :smt017
Spot on. I mean why why why...would you continually kick the ball aimlessly down field straight to their Fijian unit who eats metres for breakfast, lunch and dinner ? A mis kick I get, but not 7 or 8 times...the same kick when touch was the easy option. Ben Youngs...not played above 6/10 in the shirt for a while now. Something is up. All players saying the right things but doing something different on the field. It’s as if they’re sending a message ....hmmm
Agree with the kicking but our line out hardly functioned 3 of their tries came from turn over line out ball
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Mark62 wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:22 pm
LE18 wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:08 pm Been back home now for a couple of hours, only just plucked up courage to post how embarrassed I was sitting watching that terrible terrible performance. I tried shouting the boys on for the first 20 mins or so but became more and more perplexed by the terrible errors we made until I finally gave up shouting. How can anyone cheer, or try to, encourage a team so brainless as that?
I posted before the game that we had to beware their speedy backs, one of our happy clappers assured me we had speedy backs, absolutely not. Saints tore us to pieces, we kicked everything back to them and literally said, here have another go we dont know what to do with it. They were not just quick, but also jinked or dummied us all too easily.
Someone mentioned clowns for coaches, so who was that clown who came out after the game with his measuring wheel, placed cones in the deadball area and had 3 of our subs running up and down like idiots, What was all that about? He should have been publicly flogging our starters.
Saints supporters I talked to were generally kind with their sympathetic concerns as to the depths we have reached, they have been there and know what it's like!
Sad to say it but I cannot find anything kind to say about our players, I wonder whether the usual happy clappers will?
So embarrassed today at our lack of skills, poor kicking and everything in general! :smt022
It was me who posted that we have quick backs. I would hardly call any of our backs slow, what they were today was abject and flat footed.
I am not a happy clapper, rather an optimist but as I have posted numerous times today I cannot find anything to be pleased about tonight, so please don’t tar everyone with the same brush, and look at what is said before typing
Mark 62, sorry if it touched a nerve but I have watched a lot of Saints matches on TV this year, I have watched Saints A league matches against us and their backs have a different level of speed and skill to our backs, they have got rid of the Pisis, Burrels etc and your idea of speed and mine are totally different, we cannot run around anyone, cannot make a break, our usual tactic is give it to Manu and let him try to crash through. Sorry if it hurt.
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The match stats are here

https://www.espn.co.uk/rugby/playerstat ... gue=267979

Glancing through just underlines the gulf between the sides
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drc_007 wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2019 7:51 am The match stats are here

https://www.espn.co.uk/rugby/playerstat ... gue=267979

Glancing through just underlines the gulf between the sides
Wow...I hadn’t realised Saints had conceded quite so many penalties. And they still won :smt009
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Our kicking has been atrocious for as far as I can remember, 5/6 seasons maybe, and for most of the seasons it’s been the same person kicking them, i.e Ben Youngs.
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