BT reckons Relegation...

[RagingBull]

Lose tomorrow and we would still be 4 points away from 8th
The only people calling this a crucial game are those that are reactionary so media and usual suspects on here.

Wasps 5 points
Harlequins 6 points
Neither have many to come back from the RWC.

[voice of the crumbie]

Indeed, win and we've got momentum, lose and we're firmly rooted to the bottom. The Exiles team isn't anything special but I'm just a tad scared about what Naholo is going to do to our under-performing wingers.

Olowofela is not underperforming...

And neither is Holmes.

[jgriffin]

I haven't been impressed or not by any teams this season but my word the refereeing puts paid to any predictions from me anyway.
I've been bored by the slowing of ruck ball this season so far, it's terrible and mostly just a sumo wrestling contest as a result.
It matters not how good you are when Sir constantly allows lumps illegally all over ruck ball.
I'm sick to death of hearing refs shouts hands off, it's nearly every ruck, penalise the cheating sods and get your cards out for persistent offending!

My view for some seasons. A virus that started in the S. Hemisphere and was imported to Pro12 (yes I know it is now Pro14) and is now the norm. As is feet up when jumping, ruck overruns and so on.

[Tiglon]

I haven't been impressed or not by any teams this season but my word the refereeing puts paid to any predictions from me anyway.
I've been bored by the slowing of ruck ball this season so far, it's terrible and mostly just a sumo wrestling contest as a result.
It matters not how good you are when Sir constantly allows lumps illegally all over ruck ball.
I'm sick to death of hearing refs shouts hands off, it's nearly every ruck, penalise the cheating sods and get your cards out for persistent offending!

My view for some seasons. A virus that started in the S. Hemisphere and was imported to Pro12 (yes I know it is now Pro14) and is now the norm. As is feet up when jumping, ruck overruns and so on.

Possibly the most frustrating thing when watching rugby. It's come to the point where you're allowed to break the rules until the referee tells you to stop, and even then you can often continue to break the rules for a few more seconds before you can expect to be penalised. Sometimes it has no effect and the ref is right to play on, but too often it slows possession down by enough to mute the attack.

I half expect a forward pass to be followed by the ref shouting "stop passing forwards........ thank you, good work" before allowing play to continue.

[fortysix]

Today, Maxwell Keys showed why he is serially useless..
Sarries are outright cheats, in every which way.
They cheated, fiddled, and tried every single trick in the book to slow any momentum Gloucester managed to apply.
And for all their niggly machinations, , Sarries received not one single card, despite multiple warnings.
So personally, a 35 point fine aint nearly enough to bin these serial cheats

[RagingBull]

so like how we used to play?

[Smudge]

"Same old Tigers, always cheating" used to be the cry from the shed and there is no doubt we were canny in so far as the laws allowed. But unlike today, I don't remember refs like Norling warning before offences in those days.
I continue to be annoyed at the total disregard of the crooked feed which makes scrums pointless. If we continue like this we may as well just step over the pill as in League. I would also like to know how CM-K today allowed so many offences without waving a yellow card? Rugby people just won't allow that an official may be biased but I am not so sure. It looked to the unbiased eye that there was considerable bias today.

I was amused when the English cricket supporters used the "same old" chant reserved for the Aussies during the Ashes tests.
Similarly today it was aimed at Saracens.

[strawclearer]

"Same old Tigers, always cheating" used to be the cry from the shed and there is no doubt we were canny in so far as the laws allowed. But unlike today, I don't remember refs like Norling warning before offences in those days.
I continue to be annoyed at the total disregard of the crooked feed which makes scrums pointless. If we continue like this we may as well just step over the pill as in League. I would also like to know how CM-K today allowed so many offences without waving a yellow card? Rugby people just won't allow that an official may be biased but I am not so sure. It looked to the unbiased eye that there was considerable bias today.

I was amused when the English cricket supporters used the "same old" chant reserved for the Aussies during the Ashes tests.
Similarly today it was aimed at Saracens.

...and it seems crooked lineout throws are going the same way.

[jgriffin]

Smudge, Norling gave one very clear warning then you got hit. I know, he sent me off. In a charity match :censored:.

[WhitecapTiger]

BT might be right on the evidence of the first 31 minutes today....long way to go though

[chewbacca]

Even with Sarries being docked 35 points there is every likelihood they will still end up with more than us.

[TigerS2]

If/when tigers are relegated who will they be left with? Who will want to stay? Will tigers be able to get back up and stay up?

[Dr H Flashman MBE]

If/when tigers are relegated who will they be left with? Who will want to stay? Will tigers be able to get back up and stay up?

I would be there...because a trip to Jersey and Cornwall sounds fun...better than Reading!!!

[Chobbsy]

Much has been said already. Players to come back from WC duty and injury, more integration of new players (we have had alot of squad churn this srason) and the prospect of a strengthened coaching set up. Plus it is early doors. I had Gloucester to win today but they were nowhere (unfortunately). People have them as nailed-on top 4 but on last week and this they dont look like it; so who knows how the season will unfold. Tigers have lots to do but I think they can and will.

Then they will leave again after a couple of months for the 6N we do not have the depth in the squad to sustain us through the 6N as has already been proved so far this season

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We're only 4 points off 9th & 7 points off 4th in the league. I admit we need wins but I don't think it's quite time to panic yet....