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Re: PRC Round 4 - Tigers vs Saints

Post by Spicer » Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:49 pm

Both teams are pretty strong. It won't be a million miles from our team against Worcester.

I like the back row a lot and in fact the forwards are generally strong.

I do worry about Simmons lack of game time so far. Clearly White and Harrison are preferred over him. He'll probably have to leave to continue his career at this rate, which would be a great shame as he's very talented.

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Re: PRC Round 4 - Tigers vs Saints

Post by fentiger » Fri Oct 11, 2019 7:01 pm

Spicer wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:49 pm
I do worry about Simmons lack of game time so far. Clearly White and Harrison are preferred over him. He'll probably have to leave to continue his career at this rate, which would be a great shame as he's very talented.
More so than White IMO!

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Re: PRC Round 4 - Tigers vs Saints

Post by sam16111986 » Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:33 pm

fentiger wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 7:01 pm
Spicer wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:49 pm
I do worry about Simmons lack of game time so far. Clearly White and Harrison are preferred over him. He'll probably have to leave to continue his career at this rate, which would be a great shame as he's very talented.
More so than White IMO!
Given his injury issues we don't know whether he's had further ops in the summer and maybe isn't 100%. With the rumours that Harrison is seeking a move down under they'll be opportunities for Simmons.

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Re: PRC Round 4 - Tigers vs Saints

Post by RagingBull » Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:05 pm

White looked good so far this preseason.
As said Simmons has had his injury problems, his time will come.

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Re: PRC Round 4 - Tigers vs Saints

Post by MikeR » Sat Oct 12, 2019 8:46 am

White has nowhere near the potential of Simmons.

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Re: PRC Round 4 - Tigers vs Saints

Post by RagingBull » Sat Oct 12, 2019 10:51 am

Listen I think Simmons is the better player.

But I don't get why people like to poop on White TBH, The guy is clearly rated being England U20 captain and also picked to play against the barbarians.

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Re: PRC Round 4 - Tigers vs Saints

Post by sam16111986 » Sat Oct 12, 2019 11:04 am

MikeR wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 8:46 am
White has nowhere near the potential of Simmons.
England under 20s captain Ben White, youngest ever Tigers debutant has less potential than a fullback who was converted to 9 because he was judged to small to make it at 15. Now I really like Simmons as a player, he's just a natural footballer and could play across most of the backline, but I think you're being a bit over the top.

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Re: PRC Round 4 - Tigers vs Saints

Post by JP14 » Sat Oct 12, 2019 11:08 am

I think both are better currently than Youngs.
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Re: PRC Round 4 - Tigers vs Saints

Post by Mark62 » Sat Oct 12, 2019 11:22 am

JP14 wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 11:08 am
I think both are better currently than Youngs.
You’re usually very sensible but that is complete rubbish has someone been getting to you. You’re basically saying you could drop any one of those 2 into the England side that is one of the favourites to win the World Cup. :smt017

I also think that Simmons will end up being better than White but he needs a decent run of games. That said White is an excellent player and as usual it’s the rugby uneducated having a pop at him.
I’d say they are both better now than Harrison, who shows wonderful commitment.but his overall game is lacking

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Re: PRC Round 4 - Tigers vs Saints

Post by JP14 » Sat Oct 12, 2019 12:34 pm

Ben Youngs reminds me a lot of Lawrence Dallaglio, immortalised by England yet was always selected over the better player, Martin Corry. No matter what your opinion of Lenny he was always be first-choice for England.

White is highly rated, Youngs-esq, whilst Simmons is a talented footballer who can play wherever you want them to play, they are foils to each and that’s what you need, rather than carbon copies.
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Re: PRC Round 4 - Tigers vs Saints

Post by ATigerinAfrica » Sat Oct 12, 2019 2:44 pm

Understand the point - and my goodness did Dallaglio wind up those of us old enough to see him play in a Wasps shirt against Tigers, which itself was a grudging mark of respect - but I think any player who's won one world cup and got to the final of another probably deserved their spot.

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Re: PRC Round 4 - Tigers vs Saints

Post by Richardfje » Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:17 pm

anyway of watching this online

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Re: PRC Round 4 - Tigers vs Saints

Post by mightymouse » Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:34 pm

Can you see it online somewhere? I’m suffering it on BBC RL .. I thought we’d managed to get rid of Bleddwyn .. sadly We’ve now got to now decipher his dithering diatribe again!

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Re: PRC Round 4 - Tigers vs Saints

Post by Mark62 » Sat Oct 12, 2019 4:47 pm

Only following the game on line and Reid seems to have had another decent go at 10, except he’s missed 3 out of 4 kicks, which at the time of posting is the difference.
Question for anyone at the game, were they difficult kicks, or is there an argument for playing Hardwick at 12

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Re: PRC Round 4 - Tigers vs Saints

Post by kpj tiger » Sat Oct 12, 2019 5:03 pm

Mark62 wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 4:47 pm
Only following the game on line and Reid seems to have had another decent go at 10, except he’s missed 3 out of 4 kicks, which at the time of posting is the difference.
Question for anyone at the game, were they difficult kicks, or is there an argument for playing Hardwick at 12
From the RL coverage it sounded like his first 3 kicks were from the touchline, although his first 2 efforts sounded shocking

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