Is Lavanini going to be a liability?

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Re: Is Lavanini going to be a liability?

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Considering the number of completely needless penalties we conceded last season I'm not worried about Lavanini coming in and throwing his weight around. I don't mind our pack picking up the occasional yellow of it's part out bringing back our hard edge. Obviously no one wants regular yellow cards and we should be aiming for better discipline but last season we were a shambles, the number of head in hands moments from the likes of Mike Williams was counted per game.

Lavanini and the Pumas had a great season last year making the Super Rugby final. He's reaching peak age so of we can push him on a bit and improve him in a few technical places I can see him being a great addition for us and it will leave us with some really good options at lock.
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Guilty before he even played for us, typical of some posters on here. Give the guy a chance, he will be a massive improvement on last seasons efforts.
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nasher wrote: Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:31 am Guilty before he even played for us, typical of some posters on here. Give the guy a chance, he will be a massive improvement on last seasons efforts.
Likewise way too much leniency because he's a Tiger which wouldn't be there otherwise,works both ways
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Re: Is Lavanini going to be a liability?

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His Instagram feed shows him travelling back to Argentina, so hopefully signs that he could be with us sooner than expected .

No real surprise on the posters who are having a pop before he even arrives
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Re: Is Lavanini going to be a liability?

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sam16111986 wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:31 pm Considering the number of completely needless penalties we conceded last season I'm not worried about Lavanini coming in and throwing his weight around. I don't mind our pack picking up the occasional yellow of it's part out bringing back our hard edge. Obviously no one wants regular yellow cards and we should be aiming for better discipline but last season we were a shambles, the number of head in hands moments from the likes of Mike Williams was counted per game.

Lavanini and the Pumas had a great season last year making the Super Rugby final. He's reaching peak age so of we can push him on a bit and improve him in a few technical places I can see him being a great addition for us and it will leave us with some really good options at lock.
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Re: Is Lavanini going to be a liability?

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Scott1 wrote: Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:33 am
nasher wrote: Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:31 am Guilty before he even played for us, typical of some posters on here. Give the guy a chance, he will be a massive improvement on last seasons efforts.
Likewise way too much leniency because he's a Tiger which wouldn't be there otherwise,works both ways
Not really. We don't tend to discuss players unless they are or soon will be a Tiger, so no real way to make a comparison. AFAIK we haven't discussed any of the other players getting a red card except whether it was a red card or not and then more to do with the ref/laws than the player.
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His Instagram feed shows him in Piccadilly Circus, so hopefully that means he’s in the UK and will be joining up soon and be ready for the end of his ban
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Re: Is Lavanini going to be a liability?

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Lavanini has the core attributes to make a difference. You can’t train or coach some of those absolute DNA traits. Therefore despite his enforcer status I suspect he needs a really strong (brave 😀) captain to stare at him / yell at him / hold him back a bit like like Itoje does with Sinks for ENG.
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It will be a culture shock for lavanini. He is still a youngster, and working abroad in a foreign language can be very stressful. I would love to see us appoint a mentor to help him settle in. Someone he could talk to about anything. Marcos would be a great choice, but even someone like Matera who himself failed to settle in might be able to offer some insights.
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Hopefully Les Cusworth has given him some insight regarding living and playing in a foreign country.
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Well hopefully his fellow countryman Cortes and Gigena will help him settle in?
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This lad is going to massive for us. With Genge and Cole back, as well as Thomas, we ought to be able to recreate some of our past forward dominance.. For the last few years, our locks have been Championship standard, not Premiership.
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Strong step in the right direction ... and agree with the mentor comment above.
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sapajo wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:20 pm Well hopefully his fellow countryman Cortes and Gigena will help him settle in?
Agree, I’m sure his fellow Argentinians can help with the language barrier.
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Re: Is Lavanini going to be a liability?

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Do we actually know he doesn't speak English? I've worked with people from all over the world with varying levels of English and the numbers of them becoming homesick and/or failing to settle in was never any higher than with British people. We already have a variety of different nationalities, including Argentinians, so why would there be a problem for him?

Will he be a liability? Yes, probably, just as Julian White was and we loved him regardless.
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