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Re: When the world cup is done and dusted

Post by johnthegriff » Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:58 pm

Amazes me how highly some people rate players that they have probably not seen play, even on television. It will be some time after the end of our guys participation in the World Cup that we will see them available for first team action. by then we will have informed opinions about some of the new lads. It all looks very exciting, role on the start of the season.

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Re: When the world cup is done and dusted

Post by JP14 » Fri Aug 02, 2019 9:35 pm

I believe in a couple of games Kalamafoni has finished at lock, or was that Mapapalangi?
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Re: When the world cup is done and dusted

Post by Dangerous4 » Sat Aug 03, 2019 12:27 pm

It is my humble opinion, that the time to judge Tigers ability, will be the season after next, when our players will have the benefit of a full season, without the distraction of the W.C. We should not be too critical over bad results, and we must give players time to gel.

Looking ahead, I feel hopeful that we shall see some positives, and could get a top six place. :smt023

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Re: When the world cup is done and dusted

Post by CitizenSmiff » Sat Aug 03, 2019 1:10 pm

johnthegriff wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:58 pm
Amazes me how highly some people rate players that they have probably not seen play, even on television. It will be some time after the end of our guys participation in the World Cup that we will see them available for first team action. by then we will have informed opinions about some of the new lads. It all looks very exciting, role on the start of the season.
A lot of us do watch the Super 15 because why wouldn't you, it's like the prem turned up to about 200%.

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Re: When the world cup is done and dusted

Post by jgriffin » Sat Aug 03, 2019 2:54 pm

CitizenSmiff wrote:
Sat Aug 03, 2019 1:10 pm
johnthegriff wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:58 pm
Amazes me how highly some people rate players that they have probably not seen play, even on television. It will be some time after the end of our guys participation in the World Cup that we will see them available for first team action. by then we will have informed opinions about some of the new lads. It all looks very exciting, role on the start of the season.
A lot of us do watch the Super 15 because why wouldn't you, it's like the prem turned up to about 200%.
If reffed to the Laws about 101% max. Offside a movable feast......
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Re: When the world cup is done and dusted

Post by Scott1 » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:40 am

There was a time where forward passes and the offside line didn't count in SR but the reffing this season has been a million times better than the GP,not even close! Some of the domestic reffing has been abysmal!

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Re: When the world cup is done and dusted

Post by JP14 » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:07 pm

Even so Scott in all leagues, the inside ball which is almost always forward is left unchecked.
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Re: When the world cup is done and dusted

Post by Scott1 » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:11 pm

I blame Dewy Morris 😂

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Re: When the world cup is done and dusted

Post by jgriffin » Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:25 pm

Scott1 wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:40 am
There was a time where forward passes and the offside line didn't count in SR but the reffing this season has been a million times better than the GP,not even close! Some of the domestic reffing has been abysmal!
The standard of reffing here is abysmal in general, hilarious in the Pro14 but slightly better in SR. However IMO none of it reaches acceptable due to the 'need to entertain'.
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Re: When the world cup is done and dusted

Post by longlivethecrumbie » Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:33 pm

jgriffin wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:25 pm
Scott1 wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:40 am
There was a time where forward passes and the offside line didn't count in SR but the reffing this season has been a million times better than the GP,not even close! Some of the domestic reffing has been abysmal!
The standard of reffing here is abysmal in general, hilarious in the Pro14 but slightly better in SR. However IMO none of it reaches acceptable due to the 'need to entertain'.
Can't imagine you'd be unhappy with the reffing John! You've never mentioned it before :smt002

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Re: When the world cup is done and dusted

Post by sk 88 » Mon Aug 05, 2019 11:03 am

CitizenSmiff wrote:
Sat Aug 03, 2019 1:10 pm
johnthegriff wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:58 pm
Amazes me how highly some people rate players that they have probably not seen play, even on television. It will be some time after the end of our guys participation in the World Cup that we will see them available for first team action. by then we will have informed opinions about some of the new lads. It all looks very exciting, role on the start of the season.
A lot of us do watch the Super 15 because why wouldn't you, it's like the prem turned up to about 200%.
But how many have watched any of the Pro D2 games that Letiagaga has played to pass any opinion on him at all, let alone offer an opinion on which side of the scrum he is better at or if he is better than any of our current props?

I reckon we view him as a tighthead based on what I know of the other players but if he is better than Cortes or Heyes is a mystery at the moment because I've not seen him play and I seriously doubt anyone on here has seen him play.
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Re: When the world cup is done and dusted

Post by sam16111986 » Mon Aug 05, 2019 11:10 am

sk 88 wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2019 11:03 am
CitizenSmiff wrote:
Sat Aug 03, 2019 1:10 pm
johnthegriff wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:58 pm
Amazes me how highly some people rate players that they have probably not seen play, even on television. It will be some time after the end of our guys participation in the World Cup that we will see them available for first team action. by then we will have informed opinions about some of the new lads. It all looks very exciting, role on the start of the season.
A lot of us do watch the Super 15 because why wouldn't you, it's like the prem turned up to about 200%.
But how many have watched any of the Pro D2 games that Letiagaga has played to pass any opinion on him at all, let alone offer an opinion on which side of the scrum he is better at or if he is better than any of our current props?

I reckon we view him as a tighthead based on what I know of the other players but if he is better than Cortes or Heyes is a mystery at the moment because I've not seen him play and I seriously doubt anyone on here has seen him play.
We are mostly making the same assumption on which side he will play. There's some highlights reels which show his carrying and I don't see that we would have pursued a player for two seasons if we didn't envisage him being a key part of the squad. As Cortes is very limited (set piece and that's about your lot) and Heyes is very raw but with masses of potential it is fair to assume Leitagaga has been brought in as Cole's understudy. We might be wrong but then again players who we have seen play plenty elsewhere might not adapt to the team or environment as expected so our assumptions about them may also be wrong.

A lot of it will be speculation for at least a couple more months.

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Re: When the world cup is done and dusted

Post by jgriffin » Mon Aug 05, 2019 4:56 pm

longlivethecrumbie wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:33 pm
jgriffin wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:25 pm
Scott1 wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:40 am
There was a time where forward passes and the offside line didn't count in SR but the reffing this season has been a million times better than the GP,not even close! Some of the domestic reffing has been abysmal!
The standard of reffing here is abysmal in general, hilarious in the Pro14 but slightly better in SR. However IMO none of it reaches acceptable due to the 'need to entertain'.
Can't imagine you'd be unhappy with the reffing John! You've never mentioned it before :smt002
Hyperbole on your behalf Sir, no more than 20 incidents per game, surely? :smt005
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Re: When the world cup is done and dusted

Post by ABClub » Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:49 pm

Without injuries I'm hoping something like below develops into the full strength side.

1.Genge 2.Kerr 3.Cole 4.Lavanini 5.Spencer 6.Taufua 7.Thompson 8.Liebenberg
9.Youngs 10.Ford 11.May 12.Reid 13.Tuilagi 14.Holmes 15.Veainu

16.Polota-Nau 17.Bateman 18.Heyes 19.Green 20.Reffell 21.Simmons 22.Hardwick 23.Taute

I think Reffell is a huge talent and natural leader that the pack needs. Here's hoping the Reid can perform a similar role to Anthony Allen.

For the start of the season PRC games however:

1.Bateman 2.Kerr 3.Heyes 4.Wells 5.Green 6.Reffell 7.Thompson 8.Liebenberg
9.Simmons 10.Hardwick 11.Aspland-Robinson 12.Reid 13.Taute 14.Viljeon 15.Worth

16.Youngs 17.Gigena 18.Cortes 19.Jordan 20.Coghlan 21.White 22.McPhillips 23.Eastmond

Good blend of youth and experience. Thompson would be my pick as skipper for the PRC games. If there were injuries in the back three (beyond my presumption that Olowofela and Thompstone may still being out injured) then I'd happily see Freddie Steward in the PRC this year.

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Re: When the world cup is done and dusted

Post by Chobbsy » Mon Aug 05, 2019 8:36 pm

ABClub wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:49 pm
Without injuries I'm hoping something like below develops into the full strength side.

1.Genge 2.Kerr 3.Cole 4.Lavanini 5.Spencer 6.Taufua 7.Thompson 8.Liebenberg
9.Youngs 10.Ford 11.May 12.Reid 13.Tuilagi 14.Holmes 15.Veainu

16.Polota-Nau 17.Bateman 18.Heyes 19.Green 20.Reffell 21.Simmons 22.Hardwick 23.Taute

I think Reffell is a huge talent and natural leader that the pack needs. Here's hoping the Reid can perform a similar role to Anthony Allen.

For the start of the season PRC games however:

1.Bateman 2.Kerr 3.Heyes 4.Wells 5.Green 6.Reffell 7.Thompson 8.Liebenberg
9.Simmons 10.Hardwick 11.Aspland-Robinson 12.Reid 13.Taute 14.Viljeon 15.Worth

16.Youngs 17.Gigena 18.Cortes 19.Jordan 20.Coghlan 21.White 22.McPhillips 23.Eastmond

Good blend of youth and experience. Thompson would be my pick as skipper for the PRC games. If there were injuries in the back three (beyond my presumption that Olowofela and Thompstone may still being out injured) then I'd happily see Freddie Steward in the PRC this year.
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