Spencer and White for England

[SthrnTiger]

I'm afraid I agree with Dean Ryan that the RFU does a thousand things and none of them well.
That squad is so poor in areas and some of it isn't even English.
Some have represented Wales and Ireland and now call themselves Englishmen.
Even White sounds like he has been on the Irn Bru.
The Barabarians have Englishman Mark Atkinson included!

Apart from Sheedy who are you referring to?

Piers O'Connor played Ireland age grade. He was born in Sydney but brought up in Sussex. Came through the academy at Wasps I think.

Ahh ok thanks, didn’t know that. Apologies for double post.

[JP14]

Not a single Gloucester player?

Because they’re all South African

Balmain, Slater, Twelvetrees, Cipriani, Woodward, Morgan...

I’m just going to leave it there.

[SthrnTiger]

Not a single Gloucester player?

Because they’re all South African

Balmain, Slater, Twelvetrees, Cipriani, Woodward, Morgan...

I’m just going to leave it there.

For Cipriani could it be because he’s in the training squad?

[Hot_Charlie]

Don’t think so. Clearly a development eye on this squad, which wouldn’t help any of the Glaws players listed above.

[JP14]

Because they’re all South African

Balmain, Slater, Twelvetrees, Cipriani, Woodward, Morgan...

I’m just going to leave it there.

For Cipriani could it be because he’s in the training squad?

Talking of that, anyone know when that is announced?

[BFG]

Balmain is a great shout JP14!
When EJ gets sacked you should apply!

[Mark62]

Balmain is a great shout JP14!
When EJ gets sacked you should apply!

Another average tight head who got dominated by Saracens reserve loose head

[CitizenSmiff]

Balmain is a great shout JP14!
When EJ gets sacked you should apply!

Another average tight head who got dominated by Saracens reserve loose head

I was about to argue with you as he seems to be going well at Glaws and the fans love him, but his stats (via rugbypass) are worse than Dan's who hasn't had a great season.

[Scott1]

Yes Balmain isnt anything special,showed some promise at our place but didn't kick on. Iirc I think a green Obano had him in on toast at scrum time in an LV Cup game and although a talent one thing Obano isn't is a scrummaging LH.

[BFG]

Balmain is a great shout JP14!
When EJ gets sacked you should apply!

Another average tight head who got dominated by Saracens reserve loose head

I didn't see him dominated by Sarries and it looked a good contest, but at least he has Premiership stats worth looking at!
Painter.
What a pudding!
Talking of reserve Sarries loose head, he'd also be worth a look, that one who gave the Leinster tight heads a hard time, good player.
No matter we have Sinckler to the rescue!

[Scott1]

It's a moot point because Sinckler hardly has the problems he does at scrum time in an England shirt that he does for Quins. Considering Marlers the other side Quins scrum at times is dreadful where as Sinckler with Moon the other side was superb in the AI. I don't ever recall England scrum being in trouble with him at 3 but I'm happy to be corrected.

[Knightonian]

Am I right in thinking this doesn’t count as a cap?

[Scott1]

Yes you're right

[JP14]

Balmain is a great shout JP14!
When EJ gets sacked you should apply!

Unfortunately I’ve got a few more years on the playing circuit before that can happen, plus college and university .

At least I’m English?

[JP14]

Heyes is a better tighthead than Painter, not only is Painter not mobile doesn’t seem particularly intelligent either.