Spencer and White for England
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Spencer and White for England
Will Spencer and Ben White are included in the England XV to play the Barbarians
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Re: Spencer and White for England
Congratulations to both. A great learning experience and an honour.
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Re: Spencer and White for England
Congratulations to both but my God that 23 is gonna get crushed!
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Re: Spencer and White for England
Lets hope they learn more in defeat that they would in victory then.
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Re: Spencer and White for England
England XV squad
Forwards
Josh Beaumont (Sale Sharks)
Ben Curry (Sale Sharks)
Alex Dombrandt (Harlequins)
Tom Dunn (Bath Rugby)
Tom Ellis (Bath Rugby)
Ross Harrison (Sale Sharks)
Teimana Harrison (Northampton Saints)
Paul Hill (Northampton Saints)
Beno Obano (Bath Rugby)
Ehren Painter (Northampton Saints)
Will Spencer (Leicester Tigers)
Elliott Stooke (Bath Rugby)
Tommy Taylor (Wasps)
Backs
Josh Bassett (Wasps)
Simon Hammersley (Newcastle Falcons)
Ben Loader (London Irish)
Joe Marchant (Harlequins)
Alex Mitchell (Northampton Saints)
Piers O’Conor (Bristol Bears)
Callum Sheedy (Bristol Bears)
Marcus Smith (Harlequins)
Ben White (Leicester Tigers)
Johnny Williams (Newcastle Falcons)
Obano, Taylor, Hill
Stoke, Spencer
Dombrandt, Beaumont, Curry
White, Smith
Williams, Marchant
Bassett, Hanmersley, Loader
But raw in areas if that's the 15 but some good combinations. White and Smith played with the under 20s in the JWC last year and Williams and Marchant were the centres a couple of years back when Mallinder Jnr played 10.
Forwards
Josh Beaumont (Sale Sharks)
Ben Curry (Sale Sharks)
Alex Dombrandt (Harlequins)
Tom Dunn (Bath Rugby)
Tom Ellis (Bath Rugby)
Ross Harrison (Sale Sharks)
Teimana Harrison (Northampton Saints)
Paul Hill (Northampton Saints)
Beno Obano (Bath Rugby)
Ehren Painter (Northampton Saints)
Will Spencer (Leicester Tigers)
Elliott Stooke (Bath Rugby)
Tommy Taylor (Wasps)
Backs
Josh Bassett (Wasps)
Simon Hammersley (Newcastle Falcons)
Ben Loader (London Irish)
Joe Marchant (Harlequins)
Alex Mitchell (Northampton Saints)
Piers O’Conor (Bristol Bears)
Callum Sheedy (Bristol Bears)
Marcus Smith (Harlequins)
Ben White (Leicester Tigers)
Johnny Williams (Newcastle Falcons)
Obano, Taylor, Hill
Stoke, Spencer
Dombrandt, Beaumont, Curry
White, Smith
Williams, Marchant
Bassett, Hanmersley, Loader
But raw in areas if that's the 15 but some good combinations. White and Smith played with the under 20s in the JWC last year and Williams and Marchant were the centres a couple of years back when Mallinder Jnr played 10.
Re: Spencer and White for England
I'm afraid I agree with Dean Ryan that the RFU does a thousand things and none of them well.
That squad is so poor in areas and some of it isn't even English.
Some have represented Wales and Ireland and now call themselves Englishmen.
Even White sounds like he has been on the Irn Bru.
The Barabarians have Englishman Mark Atkinson included!
That squad is so poor in areas and some of it isn't even English.
Some have represented Wales and Ireland and now call themselves Englishmen.
Even White sounds like he has been on the Irn Bru.
The Barabarians have Englishman Mark Atkinson included!
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Re: Spencer and White for England
There's a few Scots and Welshies that changed nationality having played for England at age grade. I'd have thought we could have found a better homegrown flyhalf than Sheedy though.BFG wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2019 4:27 pm I'm afraid I agree with Dean Ryan that the RFU does a thousand things and none of them well.
That squad is so poor in areas and some of it isn't even English.
Some have represented Wales and Ireland and now call themselves Englishmen.
Even White sounds like he has been on the Irn Bru.
The Barabarians have Englishman Mark Atkinson included!
Re: Spencer and White for England
Marker and Cipriani too I’ve readBFG wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2019 4:27 pm I'm afraid I agree with Dean Ryan that the RFU does a thousand things and none of them well.
That squad is so poor in areas and some of it isn't even English.
Some have represented Wales and Ireland and now call themselves Englishmen.
Even White sounds like he has been on the Irn Bru.
The Barabarians have Englishman Mark Atkinson included!
Re: Spencer and White for England
Not a single Gloucester player?
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Re: Spencer and White for England
Barbarians squad
Forwards
Joe Marler (Harlequins & England)
Pierre Schoeman (Edinburgh)
John Afoa (Bristol Bears & New Zealand)
Finlay Bealham (Connacht & Ireland)
David Heffernan (Connacht & Ireland)
Richard Hibbard (Dragons & Wales)
James Horwill (Harlequins & Australia)
Chris Vui (Bristol Bears & Samoa)
Steven Luatua (Bristol Bears & New Zealand)
Facundo Isa (Toulon & Argentina)
Liam Messam (Toulon & New Zealand)
Viliame Mata (Edinburgh & Fiji)
Francois Louw (Bath & South Africa)
Backs
Rhys Webb (Toulon & Wales)
Rhodri Williams (Dragons & Wales)
Colin Slade (Pau & New Zealand)
Brock James (Bordeaux Begles)
Mark Atkinson (Gloucester)
Malakai Fekitoa (Toulon & New Zealand)
Filipo Nakosi (Toulon)
Taqele Naiyaravoro (Northampton Saints & Australia)
Niyi Adeolokun (Connacht & Ireland)
Charles Piutau (Bristol Bears & New Zealand)
Forwards
Joe Marler (Harlequins & England)
Pierre Schoeman (Edinburgh)
John Afoa (Bristol Bears & New Zealand)
Finlay Bealham (Connacht & Ireland)
David Heffernan (Connacht & Ireland)
Richard Hibbard (Dragons & Wales)
James Horwill (Harlequins & Australia)
Chris Vui (Bristol Bears & Samoa)
Steven Luatua (Bristol Bears & New Zealand)
Facundo Isa (Toulon & Argentina)
Liam Messam (Toulon & New Zealand)
Viliame Mata (Edinburgh & Fiji)
Francois Louw (Bath & South Africa)
Backs
Rhys Webb (Toulon & Wales)
Rhodri Williams (Dragons & Wales)
Colin Slade (Pau & New Zealand)
Brock James (Bordeaux Begles)
Mark Atkinson (Gloucester)
Malakai Fekitoa (Toulon & New Zealand)
Filipo Nakosi (Toulon)
Taqele Naiyaravoro (Northampton Saints & Australia)
Niyi Adeolokun (Connacht & Ireland)
Charles Piutau (Bristol Bears & New Zealand)
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Re: Spencer and White for England
Apart from Sheedy who are you referring to?BFG wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2019 4:27 pm I'm afraid I agree with Dean Ryan that the RFU does a thousand things and none of them well.
That squad is so poor in areas and some of it isn't even English.
Some have represented Wales and Ireland and now call themselves Englishmen.
Even White sounds like he has been on the Irn Bru.
The Barabarians have Englishman Mark Atkinson included!
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Re: Spencer and White for England
Piers O'Connor played Ireland age grade. He was born in Sydney but brought up in Sussex. Came through the academy at Wasps I think.SthrnTiger wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2019 5:44 pmApart from Sheedy who are you referring to?BFG wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2019 4:27 pm I'm afraid I agree with Dean Ryan that the RFU does a thousand things and none of them well.
That squad is so poor in areas and some of it isn't even English.
Some have represented Wales and Ireland and now call themselves Englishmen.
Even White sounds like he has been on the Irn Bru.
The Barabarians have Englishman Mark Atkinson included!
Re: Spencer and White for England
I wasn't referring to anyone else.SthrnTiger wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2019 5:44 pmApart from Sheedy who are you referring to?BFG wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2019 4:27 pm I'm afraid I agree with Dean Ryan that the RFU does a thousand things and none of them well.
That squad is so poor in areas and some of it isn't even English.
Some have represented Wales and Ireland and now call themselves Englishmen.
Even White sounds like he has been on the Irn Bru.
The Barabarians have Englishman Mark Atkinson included!