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Re: Ben Kay BT Pundit and committee member

Post by Scuttle » Sat May 04, 2019 8:35 am

I thought there were a few moments of priceless body language between Kay and Healey on Rugby Tonight this week after the latter suggested there should be multiple Board and coach resignations at Tigers if we are to sort the problem.
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Re: Ben Kay BT Pundit and committee member

Post by JP14 » Sat May 04, 2019 8:36 am

sapajo wrote:
Sat May 04, 2019 8:20 am
Kay is all mouth and no substance. He has the temerity to criticise Tigers match performances live on BT TV as if he has nothing to do with the bilge served up on the pitch. Whereas in fact the opposite is true when he is on the rugby committee with Underwood. He is part of the problem in my opinion.
He has the problem, but what was he supposed to do on Rugby Tonight? I was very surprised they let Healey on that night because he, quite rightly, laid into both Kay and Youngs. A lot of Tigers performances this season has been undone by individuals, who were brought in by this “Rugby committee”.

I sincerely suggest Tigers bring in a sports psychiatrist during preseason, should do a lot of good.
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Re: Ben Kay BT Pundit and committee member

Post by teds » Sat May 04, 2019 9:41 am

From my view, as a pundit, Kay has a responsibility to criticise Tigers publicly whereas as a member of the board he has a responsibility to not criticise Tigers publicly. Two different interests which appear to be directly in conflict.

Maybe Pat Howard will recommend that we appoint Healy as backs coach and leave Kay to focus on his broadcasting casting career. :smt018

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Re: Ben Kay BT Pundit and committee member

Post by sapajo » Sat May 04, 2019 10:05 am

teds wrote:
Sat May 04, 2019 9:41 am
From my view, as a pundit, Kay has a responsibility to criticise Tigers publicly whereas as a member of the board he has a responsibility to not criticise Tigers publicly. Two different interests which appear to be directly in conflict.

Maybe Pat Howard will recommend that we appoint Healy as backs coach and leave Kay to focus on his broadcasting casting career. :smt018
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Re: Ben Kay BT Pundit and committee member

Post by wellstiger » Sat May 04, 2019 10:09 am

Kay openly stated that Pat had meetings with every on from CEO downwards and that every comment was open and not behind closed doors. That Pat was writing a report on club structure which was not fit for purpose and possibly led to the downturn in performance. The club is keen to take on board any suggestions he makes.(Paraphrasing)

RESTRUCTURING... lets see.....

Does that mean Kay/ Underwood is no longer required..... Lets see.
Having offered this info in his BT broadcast does Kay need congratulating for being open or shot down for divulging.? :smt023 :smt023

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Re: Ben Kay BT Pundit and committee member

Post by Tigerbeat » Sat May 04, 2019 10:27 am

Pat Howard was very open about it last week when he was out and about on the terraces, saying what he had done whilst back in Leicester.
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Re: Ben Kay BT Pundit and committee member

Post by TigerCam » Sat May 04, 2019 1:48 pm

Scuttle wrote:
Sat May 04, 2019 8:35 am
I thought there were a few moments of priceless body language between Kay and Healey on Rugby Tonight this week after the latter suggested there should be multiple Board and coach resignations at Tigers if we are to sort the problem.
IMO Austin's comments 'hit the nail on the head'. He may be gobby (in a likeable way) but IMO he always fronted up like the rest of the Tigers sides he played in.

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Re: Ben Kay BT Pundit and committee member

Post by RothleyTiger56 » Sat May 04, 2019 5:13 pm

Ben also writes a column for The Times newspaper. It was there he stated Owen Williams salary was 400K to move from Tigers at the end of last season. I hadn’t heard that anywhere before. He needs to be very careful. I’m okay with him being a BT pundit but not for Tigers matches. As a “professional “ person myself I think there is a clear conflict of interest when he is employed in such circumstances. It is the equivalent of the MD of a company giving a running public commentary on the performance of his staff. I don’t say much on here but feel strongly on this matter and have made the point before. Time for Ben to choose one or the other, or change his BT contract to opt out of Tigers matches me thinks.

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Re: Ben Kay BT Pundit and committee member

Post by mol2 » Sat May 04, 2019 5:20 pm

Both are part time roles.

So long as he maintains confidentiality and appropriate separation between his role at Tigers and being a pundit there is no issue.

He should not discuss on TV the things that he knows from being a board member such as players salaries.

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Re: Ben Kay BT Pundit and committee member

Post by johnthegriff » Sat May 04, 2019 8:26 pm

The information that Owen Williams virtually doubled his salary by moving to Gloucester was widely reported and mentioned in many posts on this message board.

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